>They have no concept that it used to be alive, and had to >die to sustain them. They distance them self from this knowledge, and >create an artificial belief system that nature is so cuddly, friendly >and "co-operative". Bingo, Jim! You mentioned National Geographic; what they show ain't pretty but it's exactly what happens. Animals eat animals. I can see it now; a lion running swift and strong after a sleek, lovely antelope, finally catching her. What follows is guts and gore that rival Hollywood's worst war scenes. Welcome to reality! Yet every vegetarian I know (literally) is in great denial. If they were truly educated (all adult vegetarians I know have at least a bachelors degree), vegetarians could at least admit that animals survive by eating other animals but another tenet or this philosophy is, apparenlty, selective memory. Dori Zook Denver, CO _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp