My problem isn't with my netzero. I use it as a backup only. I have a dial up ISP (used to be Earthlink) that I have been using the Earthlink dialer to access. Because of the need to remove old programs from my hard drive, I used the uninstall Earthlink option to remove their programs etc. Now I have no dialer at all. Since my first post I have since downloaded Neoplanet and am using the Neoplanet dialer to dial my ISP. I still have now windows dialer. TIA Rob Shane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Glazier" <[log in to unmask]> To: "PCSOFT - Personal Computer software discussion list" <[log in to unmask]> Cc: "Rob" <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 21:29 Subject: Re: [PCSOFT] No DUN When using NetZero, you do not need to (and should NOT) modify the DUN connectoid settings that NetZero put there. If you are using another ISP, it is "OK" to modify the conectiods for _some_ of the "other" ones. There are many exceptions to that though, so watch out... If it "looks" proprietary (or is) it is usually not good to mess with things. Most of the free services that start "AD" stuff will not work if you mess with them. SNIP.... I hope I have read your message correctly, and been of some help in what you are "trying" to do... Rick Glazier PCSOFT maintains many useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml