I did that Richard but BlackIce still showed up as running using Filemon. So I exited the program, it was no longer in my taskbar and still it showed up running on Filemon. Removing the program completely was the only solution to get it to stop running. I haven't a clue why BlackIce would do this and I haven't reloaded it yet to see if it will still do the same thing. Thanks, Bob By clicking on the Blackice icon then select temp. shut down blackice. When completing scandisk or defrag. Go back into icon and restart Blackice. No need to uninstall. Good Luck Richard Bolha The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com