Hi listers I am trying to solve this boot problem on someone elses system: I havent yet seen the system but what Im told is that when it is turned on it displays a small box on a black screen with the words "out of range, check setup spec", I asked her to hit delete to access the bios but nothing happened. First thought is that there is a ram problem. Second thought is that it could be a dead mobo battery. any suggestions are appreciated, thanks Leigh Jennings [log in to unmask] PCBUILD's List Owners: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]>