In a message dated 3/1/2001 1:03:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: << This is why Rudy is 1) chair of the PTN Special Projects Committee and 2) a big cheeze in the Timber Framer's Guild of North America and 3) the Year 2000 Recipient of the Askin's Achievement Award. >> That's all very nice, but did he get a Darwin award? I rest my case. Ralph