"Veg News" is a newsletter for vegetarians published in Santa Cruz, California. It is a monthly, printed on newsprint, and I can (sometimes) pickup free copies at the Berkeley Bowl supermarket in Berkeley, California. The Feb 2001 issue of "Veg News" includes an interview with Jim Mason, a long-time AR (animal rights) advocate, a book author, and the founding editor of "Animals' Agenda" magazine. The interview touches on a number of subjects, including the political dysfunctionality of the AR movement. However, the question and answer below echo statements made on this list, as well as views expressed on the old (now-defunct) Sci-Veg email list. From page 9: VN [Veg News]: Do you have any words of wisdom on how the goals of the Animal Rights Network and the Vegan News Network might be reached? JM [Jim Mason]: I want to yell at the grassroots people, the rank-and- file vegetarian and animal rights people: GROW UP!! They have to learn to be better at choosing what kind of leadership, organizations and agendas they want to support. It's really a democracy and they have the ultimate power to determine the course of the animal or vegetarian movement. Way too many of them are just so incredibly naive and ill informed. They fall for one scam or huckster after another in both the vegetarian and animal rights movements. [end quote] Tom Billings