<< In Outlook Express, click on Tools, Options, General. There is a check box beside "Automatically log onto MSN Messenger Service" Be sure that box is not checked. >> The box is not checked. I have never used MSN Messenger and I never had that little guy down there by the clock until I installed WindowsME (which I do happen to like very much). I guess I just better get used to him because I just can't make him go away. Anita Faulkner Anita All you need to do is remove MSN Messenger from your startup. Start the program. When it opens go to Tools/Options/, select the Preferences tab and uncheck the box that says "Run This Program When Windows Starts" Do you want to signoff PCSOFT or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcsoft.shtml