Well Andy I could name a few people that gave up the Cancer fight; I would have had them start with Carrot Juice and fight it but no; they went with the regime that conventional medicine provides. Jim T. died yesterday: His doctor and his friend (me) tried to get him to add a few fruits and vegetables to his diet ant to quit his heavy alcohol consumption. However I increasingly feel that most people look at food as just like religion --I was born with it so it is the only way. My Mother and one sister won the cancer fight ; But my mother taught all her children tot easy salad and vegetables. She fed us overcooked meat but I think now all have started eating rare meat. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [P-F] New member, needs some tips. > On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Richard Archer wrote: > > > > > [...CJD conspiracy theory snipped...] > > > > Most people have no difficulty differentiating a conspiracy from a > neurological disease. > > > > > 80 people in what... 10 years? > > > > This is known as the incubation period. A worrying feature of new variant CJD > is the greatly reduced incubation period, resulting in many children dying. > > > > > How many people have died in the last 10 years from eating foods > > recommended by doctors, dietitians and cereal lobbies? > > > > A great many, I suspect, but this has nothing to do with CJD. > > > > > I could probably name 10 people I knew personally who would probably > > still be alive if they followed a Paleo diet. > > > > And I could name 80 people who would still be alive if they hadn't eaten > infected beef. > > > > > "could be". The expected number of deaths from the disease in the UK > > is less than 6000 [figure from that web site you referred to]. > > > > The latest study is based on an analysis of 2000 tissue samples taken from > hospitals across the UK. So the website figure is out of date. So what ? > > > > > You have more chance of getting run down crossing the street than > > dying from CJD. > > > > The fact that a totally unrelated event has a lower probability of occurring > tells us nothing about the disease, and is once again irrelevant. > > > > > Personally, I will take my chances with beef products along with a > > wide variety of other meat, fish, fruit, vegetables, nuts and seeds. > > > > Have you made an honest appraisal of the data and come to an informed > decision, or are the implications for your particular diet too unthinkable and > so you have chosen to ignore the problem ? > > > > > If you believe all the stuff on the web site you referred to (which > > appears to be run by a single individual), what on earth do you eat? > > The site says wild animals are going mad at a shocking rate, it says > > there is no barrier to cross-species contagion, says sheep and pigs > > already have some form of CJD. You cannot eat any meat from land > > animals and cannot eat farmed fish (because they are often fed > > bonemeal). What about plants grown on land fertilised with > > blood-and-bone? > > > > The link was offered as a reference only. > > > > > Most everyone on this list has come to realise that what you read in > > the popular press and even in medical journals often bears little > > resemblance to truth. So called "scientific studies" can be produced > > to prove any point you care to name. > > > > Most everyone on this list has come to realise that the interests of big > agro-business rarely coincides with the well being of the individual. There are > many bad scientific studies about, and there are many good ones also. > > > > > If we all believed "the latest study" regarding diet we would all be > > happily chowing down on bread, margarine and potato deep fried in > > trans-fatty acids. We would all fall over dead from a heart attack or > > > > Fortunately, most people on this list are more discerning. > > > If there is any lesson to be learned from the CJD scare it is that > > all animals should be fed biologically appropriate foods. And humans > > are just another animal -- bring on a paleo diet! > > > > If there is any lesson to be learned from the CJD scare it is that people > shouldn't eat prion infected meat. > > Andy.