In a message dated 10/18/2000 10:06:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: << Ralph, without increasing the noise-signal ratio, how, exactly, is this possible? Or is it just on faith? >> Ya soak it in erl. Don't think this counts as increasing noise portions; it's a legitimate technical question, so the lurkers should just piss and moan to themselves instead of to us loudmouths (loudkeyboards?). Although I can't personally verify that the sleeve was indeed pregnant (maybe just a little pregnant, or maybe it's just a cuff), it is rather gooey, indicating that something had occurred. If anyone wants to come to my basement for an inspection, that could be arranged. As to the virginity of olive oil afterbirth, knowing Fred, it's a hell of a lot more likely that the gooey stuff is 3 in 1, or even more likely, used motor oil than Vinnie Stugazza's olive erl. Ralph