On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Todd Moody wrote: > You believe, then, that the cosmological efforts of people such > as Hawking and Guth, since they deal with unobservable events > (e.g., the generation of universes from nothing) are not science? Obviously YOU do, as you told us on 21 sept, that to qualify as scientific, a theory had to be '"falsifiable, based on empirical observation" . [snip] > > > If ID theory is scientific, > > then any designer must reside within the universe. > > And that is perfectly possible, for all that ID theory has to say > about it, and also assuming that we can make this > "inside/outside" boundary that you are talking about > intelligible. If ID theory allows for non resident designers, then since their existence can not be "falsified through empirical observation", it has left the realm of science and become indistinguishable from creationism. Andy.