On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:50:35 -0700 Mike MacLeod >I mean, where do Wynona Rider and Anne Nicole Smith fall in this spectrum? At the risk of opening another can of worms, I often wonder about standards of female beauty. I have a friend who shows me his picks from internet sites (Playboy online, etc - strictly models, non-porn), and he has a horror of wide hips, rounded butts, and any fat generally. On the other hand, he doesn't mind all the models with rib bones and clavicles sticking out, which to me is as appealing as open sores. As you can gather I consider ANS closer to "how women should look" than Callista Flockheart. Most of the women held up to the public today look, to me, like they were just released from concentration camps.>> My hubby actually thinks I am too thin right now. At 170, my clavicles do stick out and so do my ribs. He enjoys a handful of this and a handful of that................ Mae West and Marylin Monroe, to him, were actually very beautiful women. He also find Anna Nicole Smyth to be very stimulating. Nothing wrong with that, as long as you are healthy. Don't Judge A Book By It's Cover, You May Be Missing Out On A Great Story..... Since The Unborn Can't Speak For Themselves, We Need To Speak For Them.