On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 08:57:04 -0400, Todd Moody <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

>You also are aware that your predecessors have always eaten meat,
>in great or small amounts, but never zero amounts.  According to
>Craig Stanford, the diet of chimpanzees is about 15% meat.

That's right.
In my imagination is more the 4% reported from Jane Godall, wherefrom
2% are from insects and about 2% from the Colobus Monkey babies.
I see this as a derivation from true paleo eating - as others exist.
Even so i won't eat insects and not antelope livers.

Mainly for esthetical reasons. I've also spiritual and ethical reasons (like
one beyondveg author reported, to my astonishment). I don't want to
elaborate on this at this place of paleonutrition.
If it's not true paleo I'll supplement. And in the one case i expected it as
possible (b12), i do it now.

>You might think about L-carnitine as well.  This amino acid can
>be made in the body from lysine and methionine, but these may
>also be in short supply in a vegetarian diet.  L-carnitine is
>very important for transport of medium and long-chain fatty acids
>into mitochondria.  This is another example of how a
>protein-supplied amino acid is needed for a function other than
>tissue-building (like arginine and NO).

There's some literature about the connection of such sulphur-containing
amino-acids and EFAs. Suggesting Quark (kwark or whatever in english).
hmhm L-carnitine, maybe it can be checked too?
My Kreatinine level is at the upper end.

In an environment with general protein oversupply
I'd assume that also the relative lower amino acids are plentiful enough
(the safety factor from what balance tests show to RDA is about factor 2)

Or I increase animal protein by eating cheese.
Several plants are high in sulphur amino acids too (that's an idea for a
sort-report as wombn has done before).
I dislike supplements and before taking such i'll search alternate options.

... big apes ...
>I'd verify the assumption that the requirement is similar first.

There's one possibility, that not. They have a bigger gut, and may produce
b12 themselves.

>> Anyway I'll stick to refuelling every 5 years.
>
>Will you be checking to determine whether your supplements
>effectively raise your serum levels to the normal range?

Of course. Some weeks are reported to be enough to end even a vitamin b12
deficiency (and I don't have any symptoms of a deficiency).

cheers

Amadeus