Jose Dominguez Wrote: "Open up the case, disconnect the power switch, jump the jumpers to get the system started, turn system off, system should stay off, replace power switch." I did this and the same thing happened??? "If the system turns on again, it's got a life of it's own, it's possessed, call exorcist <g>." I'm beginning to believe this may be the case... LOL ;-) I've tried talking to it, threatening it, prayed over it and ate popcorn over it. Still no change. "Seriously, if you disconnect the power switch that runs from the case to the motherboard, the only power connection left would be the power supply to the motherboard and that connection does not turn the system on. If the switch is not bad then the motherboard is the one that keeps turning itself on and it's bad." I would believe this if it weren't for the fact that when the card is removed from the motherboard it doesn't happen. This is what piques my interest. I know this is an isolated instance due to the fact I can put the card in another board and it will shut down and stay down. I can't put my finger on what causes the restart sequence in the shut down mode. I even installed the MAP patch from Microsoft. sigh Could there be a signal that causes the board to view the shut down as a restart? If that be the case... Everyone I've spoken with finds this anomaly quite interesting. A friend said his machine did the same thing, he fixed it but can't remember what he did to do so. LOL Or did he??? I know for a fact that he didn't have a network card installed. I am going to pursue this as far as I can. At this point, Intel is supposed to contact me next week. <smile> In any case, for those who may be interested, I will post the outcome either way. I may have to wrestle HP for a new board. I have noticed that there are times the the desk top is different. This leads me to believe the Jose may be right in his call. The screen is normally the puke default green. There have been several times the the desk top was blue and it has the words Windows 98 on it. Quite attractive I might add. I've never seen this before and I can't seem to replicate it on a steady basis. If this be the case, I suspect that the Video section of the MOBO could be going out. Nice huh? How do I tell my client that the MOBO is going South? It's like taking your car to the mechanic for repair. Every thing that happens after that is due to something they did. Ever have a clients machine die in your possession when it was working before you took it? Not a nice situation. Sincerely, Frank Suszka [log in to unmask] netTek Computers The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://nospin.com