Mike, > I'm trying to have a conversation with you > and instead of a conversation, all my questions are referred to lengthy > beyond veg detailed articles. I'll speak for Tom here (and he'll correct me if I'm wrong). I think that in replying to your questions Tom would only say the very same things he has already said in various articles on beyondveg. He is asking you politely to please spare him having to write the same things yet again - things which he has written so very many times before - and which are available for you to read, at your convenience, on the site. > As you say, by sticking to > fruitarian dogma, long term problems can occur. I would guess that that is > why the dairy has balanced things for you. This is not however, good reason > to drink milk IMO. Maybe that is why the dairy is good for Tom, but maybe not. You don't know anything about Tom's personal health problems, do you? Why would you presume to know what Tom's specific needs are? And let's say his reason for including dairy WAS in fact to remedy some chemical imbalance. How do you reach the surprising conclusion that his was "not a good reason?" If it benefits his health, isn't that a good reason? > > The Atkins diet does not have a common sense theory behind it. That is your opinion. In my opinion there is a lot of common sense behind it. And many people have done well on the Atkins diet. Others have not. > If our primate relatives were all on > the Atkins diet, it may be worth looking into! :) Mike, we are not our primate relatives. We are human beings. What do you make of the fossil finds last week, and the undisputed evidence of eons of human meat-eating? > I've looked into B12 though > and my view is that .... The diet is not at fault. You must educate yourself on the B12 issue. When you do so you will find that you could possibly hurt yourself on your fruitarian diet unless you take care to take supplemental B12 - and in some superior form that is digestible. And Mike, the B12 article on the site is not long or complicated enough for you to be refusing to read it. > what you feel is the healthiest > diet for you at this time which says a lot to me. The fact that you rely > heavily on sprouted seeds and drink milk tells me a lot. Is that because you want to know what YOU should eat? Why is it so very important to you to know what Tom eats? > It seems to me that your > stance is a perfect defence. "I just give the information". Boy oh boy are you trying to get into some sort of argument! Listen: Tom's "stance" as you call it is not a defense against you, because he is not arguing with you. Tom is JUST giving information. Maybe the problem here is that you just didn't clearly understand that. > You have a lot > of diet knowledge, your opinion matters and IMO should be given. His opinion (which should be your own opinion too) is that every person needs to make his or her own decision about what he or she wants to eat. As Kirt said earlier, that IS Tom's opinion - but you haven't understood that. Do you understand it, now? I certainly hope so! Love Liza