so true about the condiments--you should see my dogs lap up gourmet seasoned foods. the paleoscience cinched it for me, and I switched . But what really started me thinking and questioning was watching old movies! As an artist I look at faces and somatype--the body. In the forties and fifties people in general looked much better than they do today, in general. Take a look at national geographic magazines, look or life etc. The skull shapes of people looked better longer--they had a definite sheen to their skin and hair. It was because they had meat at each meal--alot of it, many courses of it sometimes--mixed with vegetables and preceded salad. whenever I see someone shine that way, I know they eat animal protein which contains fat--that shine I don't see in many people today. They look PASTY and even many fruitarians lack the shine of fat and protein-nourishment, the very shine they are seeking from fruit-only diet! Many people today eat meat, but because of the predominant (brainwashing) dietary FAT-PHOBIA, they minimize meat, and fill up on more carbos, which throws the system into overstorage--and PASTINESS.