>>Talk about the meaning of what we are doing, in general or in the
particular,
>> in a political or philosophical context? Better not."

As I accumulate more years of experience I see the value of a philosophical
view. I now seek the philisophical tools and skills, with the same curiosity
and intent as I sought the tools and skills of woodworking and other practical
matters 35 years ago.

>> I belong to several other lists where the quotidian discussion often leads
>> to tangential discourse of a more profound nature, often including humor as
>> a tool.

A few of my clients have critiqued me as being much too serious. I must learn
more about using this tool of humor.