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In article <[log in to unmask]> you write:
>Overeating is a major problem for many raw fooders. The problem is especially
>acute if one overeats dried fruit, honey, or other sweet foods. Being hungry
>all the time is bad because you will be tempted to backslide and eat
>inappropriate food - candy, sweets, salty snacks, and so on. Overeating can
>disturb your digestion, promote gas, irritate your intestines, and cause
>excess urination.

hmm.. so.. don't eat candy, sweets, or salty snacks!  Can you say
"Junk-Food-Vegetarian"?  Come on, now, we all know at least one..  Seriously
though, I find that if I restrict myself to what I consider natural and raw,
any fruit/vegetable/nut/seed that tastes decent, *Yes* I'm hungry all the
time, but that's OK because I love eating so much and I never have a problem
with all that food, as long as I stick to natural raw whole foods.  As soon
as I stray, say by binging on a bag of bagels as I am want to do, my
digestive rythym is screwed up for hours - I want to eat, but my body is
telling me it's full, so I end up waiting for those wonderful pangs that say
"FEED ME" and I do.

>When you are eating, learning to recognize the inner voice say "I'm satisfied"
>is difficult, and developing the willpower to stop eating when you hear that
>voice, takes some effort and time. Controlling the tongue is very difficult,
>as it enjoys the taste of delicious raw foods (as well as bad foods)!

hmm... yes & no.. I generally find that it is very hard to overeat on raw
foods - i.e. if I am hungry (i.e. stomach empty) and I eat a banana, I feel
good, it tastes good.  I might get away with two.  But if I try to eat a
whole bunch, I start to feel awful and they don't taste as good.  This is my
body telling me in no uncertain terms that I don't need to eat anything
right now.   I find there is no inner voice saying "I'm satisfied" but only
a stomach that growls when it's not.  My chore is learning to eat when it
growls, not learning how to stop eating when I think it's full.  i.e. listen
to what your body is telling you and you *can't* go wrong.  I cannot force
myself to eat fruits/veggies to the point where I feel bloated - it just
doesn't happen.  However, it is very easy to do if I am eating bread, for
instance.

>How to reduce food intake? First stop snacking and/or grazing. Eat only when
>hungry. For each meal, decide how much food is the maximum you will eat, and
>don't exceed the limit you set. The amount of food that will fit in both
>hands, held together, is one possible goal. (The food should not be piled
>high in the hands).

I'm a little worried here - if your body tells you to eat x amount of food,
then by all means you should!  What is usually happening is that most
processed or refined foods (inc. juices/sugar/cooked food etc) screw those
messages up.  I can't set a limit on any meal, nor can I set a time for a
meal.  If I'm hungry I eat, if I'm not I don't.  That is the best I can do.
I would hate to condition myself into ignoring my hunger and only eating at
set times and quantities like 90% of north america.  (yes, I know that your
body will gradually settle into a rythym of eating times, but forcing it to
follow some other scedule deduced by some artifical means is the wail
wagging the dog)

>Fermentation was discussed some months ago. Among raw fooders, acidphilus
>fermentation is seen as good, yeast fermentation (=> alcohol/liquor) is
>seen as bad. Advocates of fermentation say it may make certain foods more
>digestible, provides acidophilus and enzymes, and is an important part of
>the living foods lifestyle (of Ann Wigmore), which has been used successfully
>by many people for healing of serious illness.

How about a different, more logical definition of what is good/bad.  Ask
yourself, would an animal in the wild come across or eat any quantity of
fermenting milk or cabbage?  I suspect not, therefore I eat no significant
quantity of either.  Likewise, I do not see many wild animals with the fancy
juicers you need to get Ms. Wigmore's famed wheatgrass sprouts, nor do I see
many humans with the kind of ruminant-like digestive system you need to eat
wheatgrass.  You can come to your own conclusions of course.