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Rex Harrill <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 22 Jul 1998 09:54:32 -0400
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Peter Brandt wrote:

> I think that if you re-read her [Liza's] post...you will find that she was not
> aiming at you personally...

Well, God help me if she *had* been aiming my way.  The woman sent a message, loud
and clear: I DON'T LIKE YOU AND I
PARTICULARLY DON'T LIKE THE *WAY* YOU WRITE!

Actually, I've now had my say and it's over as far as I'm concerned.

Peter, you used these words to rebut my complaint about some in this forum
disrupting others: "If done with content, why not?"

I agree.  My complaint really was directed toward snide comments like "mucus boy"
and the attempts to laugh ideas one doesn't like out of the arena.  I tend to
enjoy a chuckle-worthy quip, but hard-hearted ridicule is another story.


> ...if they are claiming that their health systems are cure-alls, they had better
> be able to deliver.

Maybe this is the heart of the present controversy.  I never notice "cure-all" in
guru writings.  I do notice a recurring message that *drugs are poisons*.  And
yes, I keep seeing usable advice, so I take what I need and ignore the rest.

I'll later have to answer for my Barleygreen comment, but I'd like you to answer
to your claim that low protein, low fat, is wrong for especially wrong for
Parkinson's Disease.

> Especially, not a low protein, low fat diet such as Shelton recommended.
>

PD results from a shortage of dopamine, which is a result of the death of certain
dark cells in an area of the brain.  We're all born with a surfeit of those cells,
but with little to no ability to regenerate if our initial stock are damaged.
*Many* neurologists state that because we tend to lose nerve cells throughout
life, *most* people can be expected to develop PD, or one of its cousins, *if* we
live to old age.

There are doctors who claim agricultural pesticides, and even common household
chemicals disrupt those cells.  Some MD's suggest alcohol can create damage.
Others say that viral diseases, particularly in childhood, create tremendous
amounts of nervous system harm that so cut down the reserve that PD is almost
certain to show up in latter life.

For instance, I once phrased this question to a neurology research doc at NIH:
"It's quitting time.  You guys have shut down the lab, and have your feet up on
the desk while relaxing a moment.  Maybe you're b.s.ing, maybe even having a
drink---and asking each other what could cause all these mysterious central
nervous system maladies.  What do you hear?"

"Polio."  I thought he was kidding, but he wasn't.  Supposedly, at least in his
view, kids get polio but then they get well.  They are not visually crippled; they
didn't die; they are not in an iron lung; however they are walking time-bombs.
The damage has been done, but it won't be apparent until a much later period in
the person's life.

Now I only have limited amounts of Shelton material and can't find PD addressed
anywhere, but if Shelton lived 30 years with PD without taking L-Dopa, I consider
it a major victory on his part.  BTW, L-Dopa is called a drug, but the body uses
it as a precursor to dopamine which, at least in my mind, makes it a *food* (for
those with PD) although it has serious side-effects.

Perhaps you can tell me how high fat, high protein, can help PD.


> Judging by how many natural hygienists have ended up with poor health and
> chronic illness, the natural hygienic protocol clearly does not provide a viable
> alternative to mainstream nutrition/medicine for a great number of people.
>

Quite a statement---and I heartily disagree.  For instance, the health ministry of
Dr. Malkmus seems to be helping a *very* great number of people.  Does he fit the
natural hygiene mold?

> How do you know this [Barleygreen health benefits] to be true?

Anecdotal evidence---I'm not sure where, or if (and suspect they haven't) stooped
so low as to buy drug-company style "scientific" reports.  However, it is possible
they'll have to pay the tribute if the drug overlords start seeing their pill
sales plumment and send in the FDA goons.

Thanks for your comments Peter.  This thread is going to get a rest on my end.

Regards,
Rex Harrill

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