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Stefan Joest <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 13 May 1997 13:23:08 +0000
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Hi Zephyr and Deborah,

Deborah:
>This sounds reasonable.  If Zephyr wants to do it, we can certainly
>consider it.  I wonder, though, what options he'll be left with if none
>of his RAFs pass the tests!  Also, how do the tests work?  Does an
>experienced instincto eat the foods and try to detect a taste change?
>And, if none appears, does the food fail the test?  What if we had sent
>in the mongoose before Zephyr ate it?  Would they have tested it?  Are
>they willing to taste most anything?

They test smell and taste. If still uncertain the tester will eat a small
amount and watch for the signs his/her body gives.
Most things are tested by mr. Burger who has the longest experience.
One remark: they are doing the tests for their customers only but since
I am a good customer they will do it in your case.

They wouldn't test the mongoose because it lives in an environment that
gives no guarantees about feeding. It may have had access to human gar-
bage so everything is unsafe.
Don't be afraid that nothing passes the test. Zephyr's description of his
food supply sounds very very good. I wouldn't even assume now that his tuna
was frozen. Still I think the test by Orkos would make sense.

I also don't think anymore that the dental work done will be a big deal but
I still want to be on the safe side. So I would like to know from Zephyr,
which kind of material he had in his teeth before the complete replace was
done. Were there amalgam fillings? This is very important!

Zephyr:
>Wait a minute.  How can food become "denatured" if it is frozen by the
>weather, the most natural force of all?  Granted, durians wouldn't
>encounter freezing unless they were carried up a tall tropical mountains
>during the winter, but what about a deer that dies of freezing over
>night.  That's not naturally occuring?  There's definitely something
>fishy, or deery here.

No!!! Freezing is not natural. Granted it occurs in nature today but I read
about scientific researches that told me, that the weather even in sibiria
in ancient times was   m u c h   more moderate with temperatures never
dropping below app. 35F. So I assume that frozen food is nothing we are
genetically adapted to. My own experience tells me that it is bad for me
and the official instincto theory also says that freezing is not allowed.
In fact it denatures food.
The joke is, that it doesn't happen while freezing it. It happens when
the food is thawed. Ice crystals that have built in the cells of the food
melt and break the walls of the cells. There is destruction on the mole-
cular level. May be there will be less problems if freezing is done so
quickly that no ice crystals can form. This is a very sophisticated
question I can't answer. Also there are a few foods that survive freezing,
some kinds of winter-hard lettuce for example.
Generally freezing of tropical fruits should be fatal because it never
happened in ancient times.
Be careful with frozen food. With the few exceptions of winter-hard food
I can't recommend it!

Zephyr:
>I think, in general, you are translating your European concerns about
>food quality and markets to America and at least in my experience not all
>of what you say translates accurately, though I appreciate much of what
>you express.

I have been in California for two times and I know WholeFoods-Market and
the normal supermarkets. I have been in Palo Alto mainly and visited
San Francisco and San Jose and the other villages around there.
Greetings to all the people in the bay area. It's a great place to be!

The organic apples in CA are as big as the conventionally grown apples in
Germany. (And the conv. apples in CA are so big that I haven't got words
for them.)
I hoped to find undenatured dates in CA, the country of the dates. But
I was wrong. They were all dried at too high temperature, sometimes treated
with sucrose.
Honey in the comb wasn't instinctito quality. I ate more and more of it,
got mucus and had to stop it mentally because it obviously was a trap.

Fish in WholeFoods-Market was frozen always. If you are experienced you
can recognize that from the structure. Freezing destroys the cells so the
structure of the fish loosens considerably.
I found myself to become addicted to the frozen tuna and again had to
stop it mentally.

The meat I found wasn't worth even trying it. One time they had venison
but it was packaged in foils, looked ugly and was as expensive as in
Germany. So I didn't try it.

I got some instincto quality tamarind from the dirtiest looking mexican
shop I ever saw. When I entered it they looked at me as if I came from
Mars (and I returned their looks and didn't care.)

As Karl said America has a (paranoid I would add) fear of bacteria, pests,
etc. The most paranoid state is indeed California. Sorry to state that.
America is so paranoid that even interstate distribution of fruits,
vegetables and meat is strongly restricted.
I like America (from other reasons) but I don't consider it to be an
easy place to get instincto quality food.

Instinctive greetings,

Stefan


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