Hi Paul,
I had said:
> > Furthermore - I'd want to know what else you "changed" at that
> > time..... Did you start to take better care of yourself in general?
> > Did you get more sleep? Did you become resolute about taking charge
> > of your life? Did you change excercise habits? Did you change a job,
> > or clean up a relationship, or forgive someone important, or clean
> > out your garage and closets? Did you stop partying and staying out
> > late at night and drinking and smoking? Did you get rid of stress in
> > some important way? And as far as diet - did you ELIMINATE something
> > you had been eating a lot of, that could possibly have been the
> > culprit?
You answered:
> Valid points, but if you have deeply-lodged plaques or cancers in the
> bowel, all the determination in the world, or modest fiddling with the
> cooked foods or even stopping all junk foods and refined sugar, won't
> remove them. Raw plant foods and some herbs or Cassia can do it though.
I've re-posted my paragraph above, so I can refer to it. You see I
mention a number of factors besides those that you have referred to.
Without getting too lengthy here, I'll just say that there's much
evidence linking all of the factors I've mentioned above, with
remission of cancer. Sleep, smoking, stress, the ELIMINATION of
toxic foods or substances from the diet (as opposed to just changing
the form of the food from cooked to raw) - all these as well as the
others I've mentioned above, have been shown to have a direct
influence on the body's ability to recover from cancer.
I see you make the distinction raw "plant" foods. As a vegan, I'm
curious to hear your thoughts regarding evidence regarding our long
history of meat eating, of which you can get a great overview at
BeyondVeg (have you taken a look yet?).
As far as cassia, I have yet another (probably naiive) question
regarding this very treasured substance. Outside of the additives,
what is the difference between taking cassia every morning (a la
instincto) and taking Ex-Lax every morning? They are both senna.
> Liza, you seem to belittle the benefits of raw foods just as much to
> the extreme as JR excessively touts them as a guarantee of health.
If I seem to be doing that, then maybe it's because I feel it's
necessary when the conversation seems to take on undertones (or
overtones) of irrational and inaccurate assumptions about the
abilities of raw food.
> None of this is to say that 100% raw vegan is the best long-term diet,
> at all
Good! Great! I'm glad we agree.
It seems odd to me that both you and Mark seem to agree about this,
and yet you don't want to see it expressed outright. Why is that? Do
you feel there's a danger that lurkers might get the wrong
impression altogether, and stop eating any raw foods? Or is it
something else?
> (although I also can't discount a few individuals being able to
> make it work very well for years,
Yes, that is true. But of course, in life, you can always find
SOMEBODY doing a certain thing. But again, take a look (if you
haven't already) at BeyondVeg discussions about the long-term
success rates for this (and the amount of dishonesty to cover
up "cheating"!).
> and short term at least, certainly can be wonderful for certain
> conditions as with Mark - where a similar diet mostly cooked just
> does not have the same effects).
How would you KNOW this? Mark didn't try it with a "similar diet
mostly cooked," did he? You know, the "placebo effect" is a
profoundly important factor in human healing.
> I have had OBVIOUS benefits now lasting a year, especially at
> an energetic level, from eating a lot more raw foods (about 80% raw
> right now). Little else important has changed in my life BTW.
That is great Paul! It's great to hear when people get healthier.
So, you're saying you're eating the _exact_ same foods as before,
same proportions and all, only now they're raw instead of cooked?
Anyhow, thanks for the nice email.
Love Liza
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