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Peter Brandt <[log in to unmask]>
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The welcome message has been updated. Please keep for future reference.
A shorter version of it can be found at:

               http://www.rawtimes.com/raw-food.html

Best, Peter
[log in to unmask]

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WELCOME!

You have been added to the RAW-FOOD mailing list.

PLEASE SAVE THIS MESSAGE.  THIS WILL ANSWER MANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.

The raw-food list is a support forum for people who enjoy diets high in raw
foods or who wish to bring more raw foods into their diets. The list
provides a supportive environment for a civil & constructive exchange of
ideas and information. A wide range of raw diets (both vegetarian and
non-vegetarian) is discussed and a balanced, non-fanatical approach to diet
encouraged. No raw food diet will solve all the problems of the world, and
the list does not welcome the diet zealotry that often is found in the raw
food community. Lively debates are commonplace but flaming and personal
attacks are not tolerated, and basic courtesy is requested of all
participants towards other subscribers AND towards persons or groups not
represented on the list. Raw-food is an easy-going and open forum with
ample room for the expression of all points of view and in the spirit of
information sharing and open exchange, the list is uncensored and any
subscriber can post to it. It should be kept in mind that any information
obtained from this list might not be accurate or appropriate for everyone.
Each reader must draw their own conclusions about how to use any information
obtained from the list, and it is strongly suggested that each reader does
his/her own analysis of any claims made. In case of a medical problem, it
is recommended that a qualified health practitioner is consulted.

To insure privacy, the names of raw-food subscribers are not available to
anybody. There are a large number of subscribers who only read but do not
post. and only by posting is the identity of a subscriber revealed.

NB. The acronyms "RAF" and "ROF" stand for "Raw Animal Food" and "Raw Organ
Food"
respectively.  They are used from time to time on the list.

Moderation:  The discussion will be moderated in the following manner.
All posts will be sent out to the list automatically by the list server
without prior screening.

HENCE, MODERATION WILL TAKE PLACE AFTER THE MESSAGE IS POSTED
RATHER
THAN BEFORE.  If a post does not meet the above protocols or is off
topic, the moderator will post a message to the list and/or in private
responding to the original post and explaining the issue involved.  If
the poster continues to post off topic or in disregard of the above
protocols, the poster will be suspended from the list for an
appropriate period of time.

Questions or concerns about list moderation should be addressed to
Peter Brandt <[log in to unmask]  Peter is moderator for the list.

Questions about subscribing, unsubscribing, posting or receiving
messages should be addressed to David Karas <[log in to unmask]

POSTING GUIDELINES:
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1. To keep the list tidy and avoid unnecessary clutter, when responding
to a message, edit out everything except the parts you are actually
commenting on.

2. Please identify the author of the message you are replying to.

3. If the content of a thread changes make sure that the change is
reflected in the subject line.  This makes it easier to follow the
dialog and conduct searches in the archives.  If on digest, make sure
that your responses have appropriate subject lines.

4. If using a signature file at the end of your message, please limit
it to three or four lines.  The content of signature lines may be subject
to moderation.

5. Please note: HTML and/or attachments can not be used.

6. Off topic threads are ok if kept within reason.

7. "Flames" of any kind should be avoided. In a nutshell, the basic
requirement is that posts be polite, considerate and non-confrontational.

8. When posting, a minimal clarification of what is personal
beliefs/experience and what is established facts is expected as well as
using a reasonable amount of discretion in responding to questions and
counter arguments.

LIST GUIDELINES:
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1. Subscription to this list is at the sole discretion of the
listowners.

2. If you are personally criticized, upset with the operation of the
LISTSERV, or have recommendations for improvement, do not hesitate to
bring it to the attention of the moderator or listowner, either on
the list or in private.

3.  Do not contact the Postmaster, or anyone else at St. Johns
with questions or complaints about our list.  The computer staff at
St. Johns maintains hundreds of internet discussion groups and cannot
get involved in individual accounts.  They have also, as an overall
legal policy, delegated complete authority over this List to the
listowners.

4. If you decide to remain subscribed to this mailing list, your
doing so indicates agreement by you to the all the policies outlined
in this Welcome message, including the terms and conditions to be
found in the following two paragraphs.  PLEASE unsubscribe from this
list if you are unable to agree.

5. Neither the RAW-FOOD List forum leaders/owners, their employers,
nor any subscribers or other contributors can be held liable in any
way for any information and/or data obtained in any way from this
list; nor shall there be any liability for any information construed
as missing from anything obtained from this list.

6. By your use of this mailing list, you agree to hold harmless the
RAW-FOOD List forum leaders/owners, their employers, subscribers, and
all other contributors against ANY AND ALL CLAIMS arising out of such
use, regardless of the cause, effects, or fault.

If you do not agree to the provisions of the two paragraphs
immediately above, or with any other policy included in this Welcome
message, please unsubscribe from the RAW-FOOD list immediately.
(see below)

ARCHIVES:
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The archives which go back to January 1996 are a rich source of information
and can be searched using our powerful search engine by going to
http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/raw-food.html

The archives can be accessed and searched via email as well. For
information on how to do this, send the following message to
[log in to unmask] and place in the body of the e-mail the
following text:

                           GET RAW-FOOD DBSEARCH

SUBSCRIPTION:
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To subscribe send an e-mail to [log in to unmask] and place in
the body of the e-mail the following text:

                SUB RAW-FOOD your-first-name your-last-name

The subject line is unimportant. You will receive a confirmation message
from listserv with a code in the subject line. To be subscribed you must
reply to this message to listserv with the letters OK in the body of your
reply.

Please note that only subscribers can post to the list.

UNSUBSCRIPTION:
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To unsubscribe send an e-mail to [log in to unmask] and place
in the body of the e-mail the following text:

                              SIGNOFF RAW-FOOD

RAW-FOOD LIST ADDRESSES:
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The following e-mail addresses are used in relation with this list:

1. The list address: [log in to unmask]

    Messages sent to this address go to all list members. This is
    called "posting" to the list.  The list address should never be
    used for administrative requests regarding your subscription or
    questions about the list server, as this would unnecessarily annoy
    other list subscribers.

    You can only post to the list from the account under which you are
    subscribed.  If your post is rejected for no apparent reason,
    contact one of the listowners listed below.

2. The listserv address:  [log in to unmask]

    This is the address to which you sent your subscription request,
    and it should be used for all requests that can be handled
    automatically by the LISTSERV program.  This includes changing
    your name or address, unsubscribing, changing your subscription
    options, retrieving files from the file server, searching the list
    archives, etc.  You will find a list of the most commonly used
    LISTSERV commands in the next section.

3. The listowner's address: David Karas <[log in to unmask]

4. The moderator's address: Peter Brandt <[log in to unmask]

    These are the people in charge of keeping the list running.  If
    you have any technical or administrative problem that you cannot
    solve with LISTSERV commands, contact David Karas <[log in to unmask]

    This would include problems such as having your postings to the
    list rejected, or if you think some RAW-FOOD messages don't get
    through to you.

COMMON LISTSERV COMMANDS:
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This file describes some of the common commands that you may need to
send to the LISTSERV.  You can generally send any number of commands
in a single message, as long as each is on a separate line.
(Exceptions to this rule will be noted.)

This is not a complete list of commands, and many of these commands
have other options not discussed here.  More information about
LISTSERV and database search commands is available: see the "INFO"
command described below.

Remember to send commands to [log in to unmask];
don't send them to [log in to unmask], which is the
address where you post messages for everyone else to read.

The common commands are as follows:

SUBSCRIBE
SIGNOFF
SET MAIL
SET NOMAIL
SET DIGEST
SET NODIGEST
QUERY
GET
Database search

Each will now be described in more detail.

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1.  SUBSCRIBE RAW-FOOD YourFirstName YourLastName

This is the command you used to subscribe to the RAW-FOOD mail list.
Your subscription address is automatically detected, so you do not
need to enter it.  You will only be allowed to post from that address.
If you want to post from more than one account, you can subscribe
from several addresses and set all but one to "NOMAIL", as explained
below.

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2.  SIGNOFF RAW-FOOD

This command removes you from the RAW-FOOD list.
If you are forced to change Internet providers and cannot unsubscribe
from your old e-mail address, please send an e-mail note to the
listowner and he will unsubscribe you from your old e-mail address.

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3.  SET RAW-FOOD MAIL

Sets your subscription option so that you receive each message as it
is posted.  This is the default setting when your subscription begins.

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4.  SET RAW-FOOD NOMAIL

Sets your subscription option so that you will receive no mail from
the list.  You are still able to post messages to the list.  This is
useful if you have more than one account, or if you want to leave the
list temporarily (e.g. when going on vacation).  Use "SET RAW-FOOD
MAIL" or "SET RAW-FOOD DIGEST" to go back to normal.

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5.  SET RAW-FOOD DIGEST

Sets your subscription option to digest.  Instead of receiving each
message as it is posted, you will receive one daily message with all
postings for that day.  If you use this feature, do not use the reply
feature of your software or the entire digest may be re-sent to the
whole subscriber list!  Instead, a new message should be created with
the applicable information and comments.

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6.  SET RAW-FOOD NODIGEST

Sets your subscription option to individual messages instead of
receiving a daily digest.  You will receive each message as it is
posted.

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7.  QUERY RAW-FOOD

This returns a summary of your current subscription options.  If it
appears that the RAW-FOOD list is no longer sending you messages, you
should issue the "QUERY RAW-FOOD" command to determine your status:

    If the returned information shows NOMAIL and NOPOST this change
    was probably due to error notices caused by your e-mail address.
    You can return to receiving normal mail with the "SET RAW-FOOD
    MAIL" command (see the description above).

    There are many reasons why your e-mail address may be causing
    error notices, including a full mailbox or transmission problems
    along the pathway.  The high volume of error notices we get makes
    it impossible for us to research every notice.  We do try to warn
    you of the problem, but usually you will not receive our warning
    for the same reason that the error notice is being generated.  If
    the bounced message appears to be temporary, the ID is set to
    digest mode.

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8.  INDEX RAW-FOOD

This returns a list of all the RAW-FOOD files available from the file
server.

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9.  GET

This retrieves a named file from the file server, eg. GET RAW-FOOD
WELCOME will retrieve this welcome message.

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10.  INFO

Returns a list of LISTSERV help files.  Send "INFO REFCARD" for a
reference card on LISTSERV commands.

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11. Database Search

The RAW-FOOD archives can be searched by sending a query
to the listserv. You can obtain a help file with the following
command to the listserv:   GET RAW-FOOD DBSEARCH


THANKS for your support.  Best wishes and good health.

Peter Brandt
David Karas



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