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Robert Wynman <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 29 May 1997 02:03:30 -0400 (EDT)
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Claire, Iasked Ellie several questions about biomagnetics & got some answers
that I thought might interest you.  Lemme know if they do & if you have
answers, too!

Many thanks,. Bob
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From:	[log in to unmask] (Ellie Rotunno)
To:	Robert Wynman <[log in to unmask]>
Date: 97-05-28 12:50:12 EDT

Hi Bob,

This is a private communication, not for posting yet.

Below is what I put in M2M and it is based on traditional scientific
thinking about nerve energy from my neurophysiology books. As we've
learned from NH, traditional medical wisdom is often on the wrong track
so take it for what it's worth. I'm not an expert on neurophysiology. I
only have this toxic mind theory based on toxicosis in neurons and have
attempted to correlate this with traditional scientific findings in
biological psychiatry. Anyway, astrocytes, as far as I know, are
supportive nerve cells. They help regulate pH and have other functions.
They do not contain neurotransmitters and are not directly involved in
neurotransmision. Science would say nerve energy is transmitted not just
eletrically along the axon membranes of neurons (astrocytes are not
neurons), but also chemically by the release of neurotransmitters at
synapses. The neurotransmitters react with receptors and then ionic
electrical impulses are set up in postsynaptic neurons. It's interesting
that astrocytes are the most disease resistent nerve cells in the brain.
This supports the toxic mind theory which says that emotional disease is
caused by toxicosis in neurons involving xs neurotransmitters. (I can't
put this detail on the Net until it's published for copyright reasons).
I've never heard about DC or AC impulses in neurons or astrocytes but I
suppose all cells have electical energy. EEG's measure electrical energy
from nerve cells, but don't provide the answer to how this energy is
generated physiologically. It seems to me the evidence that electricity
from outside has an effect on nerve transmission is not based on normal
physiological mechanisms, but on the effects electricity has on nerve
transmission which is often damaging just like drugs. But who knows, I'd
be interested in scientific evidence that disproves me. Maybe that 'low
level of constant electrical energy' I mention below is affected by
outside factors. I personally believe it is the God spark of life which
is the same basic energy of the universe. We are after all just dancing
energy. But I think the issue of restoring nerve energy through sleep,
etc. involves much more than any effect outside factors like the
magnetic field might have on this basic energy.

Quote from next M2M:
> Re nerve energy. I was mistaken when I thought we are born with a fixed
amount. We have a low level of constant electrical energy that travels
through nerves without the nerves being excited, but we are born with
a fixed capacity for nerve energy. To quote myself (glad you reread your
own letters, I refer to mine too) nerve energy can be defined as the
ionic flow of electrical nerve impulses along the fibers of neurons, and
is transmitted from neuron to neuron by chemical neurotransmitters at the
synapses. The availability of nerve energy is determined by the supply of
precursors for neurotransmitters, other metabolites and structures, by
cellular metabolic capacity, and by the general health of the neuron.
During slow delta wave sleep neurotransmitters are synthesized and
restored. But the kind of sleep caused by drugs, electricity, including
electricity generated by magnets, is not the kind of sleep we need. It
is the result of toxicosis. Nerve energy is chemically transferred, and
not increased by any outside force like electrical input from magnets or
any other electrical source. Electrical stimulation is injurious and has
the same effect as drugs, only it causes clogging of receptors by
endogenous rather than exogenous substances. Acupuncture would do the
same. So do refined sugars increase endogenous sedatives. Because
sedatives are endogenously produced doesn't make them desirable.
Endorphins, serotonin, etc. are protective neuromodulators, but are only
the result of injury.  Loss of symptoms by Lou's son could have been a
suppression of symptoms. There are two mechanisms in sleep. The
first is passive delta type--when neurons fatigue, nerve impulses slow
down and there is less excitability of the reticular activating system.
This is normal, deep, restless sleep, devoid of emotional type dreams. In
the second type of sleep endogenous metabolites like
dopamine, serotonin, endorphins, GABA, etc. clog receptors the same way
sedative drugs do. These metabolites are actually waste products and a
response to injury and toxicosis in the brain. If we were ever really
non-toxic we would not sleep very long. We would probably sleep like
babies, on and off when we needed to restore neurotransmitters. You
don't need that second type of sleep. This is my understanding from
studying the nervous system, but it's not my idea. Shelton knew that
electricity was a stimulant and that all stimulants eventually caused
depression of the nervous system. I was hoping to get to sleep with the
sugar in dates (didn't work because they weren't refined toxic sugars),
Remember? You said a big no!!! and  "you don't hafta put something in
your mouth & 'till you know you don't, substitute your big toe or your
favorite part of a close friend." How about sleeping until you get a
stop, i.e. when you wake up, read, rest or surf the Net. It's 3 AM now,
I'm having fun, and will not likely need any sleep during the day. It's
easy for me to talk since I don't have to work every day and can sleep if
I need to, but I seldom do need sleep in the day, only rest. If I came to
you  for dental treatment, I would probably choose drugs rather than
electricity because of my history with shock treatments. I had
one that didn't render me unconscious and I felt the agonizing pain as
the electricity as it surged through my entire body. The terror lingers
to this day. I read that some psychiatrist is now trying to cure people
with magnets applied to their heads instead of electrical currents. No
thanks to giving myself any nightly shock treatments. Have fun with your
experiments. I'm all for therapy if you know it's therapy and need to
suppress symptoms to function. I had to do that for years.
Antidepressants saved my life. I am only concerned with that faint
glimmer of hope I hear from you that maybe it's not therapy.

My best, Ellie


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