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Stefan Joest <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 6 May 1997 13:08:35 +0000
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Deborah:
>So apparently it's possible for these critters to hatch out again in the
>next few decades?
Hm, perhaps the encapsuled form is just the way this parasite spreads itself
The question, if reinfection may occur should be answered seriously.

Deborah:
>It seems to me that points no. 3 and 4 might contradict each other.  In
>free nature, some human waste would appear here and there, I would think.
> Now, would the waste of a human instinctive eater be acceptable for the
>animals to eat?  (Assuming, of course, it's a third generation instincto
>:-D)
Waste in point no. 3 of the Orkos-criteria for meat means waste of cooked
people including things that were not thought to be eaten (paper, synthetical
 materials, skins of treated fruits,...). Fruit skins, cores etc. that an
instinctive eater would leave in nature would be okay (but where does this
happen?) Very sophisticated question:
May the feces of an instinctive eater of first or second generation be
accessible for instincto-qualitiy animals?
Maybe they are to poisoned still. Chimps are very much attracted to the
feces of cooked people. Research scientists reported that the chimps dug out
feces even if they were dug deeply by the scientists.

Instincto today can rise a lot of very sophisticated questions. Nearly all
of these questions arise only because of the whole world living in a crazy
way far away from nature. To get around all these pitfalls a   l o t   of
intelligence is necessary. Yes, I consider instinctive living today to be
one of the most complicated things if you want to follow all the sophistica-
ted questions. Okay, where is my neo-cortex for? I will use it. It seems
to be underused anyway I am told.

Deborah:
>What are the EU hygienic standards, if you know them?  And do any of them
>run counter to instincto philosophy or slaughtering/butchering practice?
I haven't collected them so far but read about parts of them in the news-
paper when BSE (crazy cow disease) arose.
Several hygienic standards are troubling me so far:
- aged meat might be the best for instinctive eaters but I may sometimes at
  least try the smell of totally fresh meat. Hygienic standards don't allow
  the sell of fresh meat of certain species.
- Very aged meat can't be sold by hygienic standards. Sometimes exact this
  would perhaps meet my requirements.
- Currently I can't order brains from mammals because sell is nearly
  forbidden in the EU. (Thanks to the crazy people who fed dead animals to
  their vegetarian cattle)
- I think there are standards about letting slaughtered animals bleed out.
  Well and if I want to get the blood? Or eat an animal that didn't bleed
  out? Predators start drinking the blood of their prey, then turn to the
  inner organs I hear. Only if this is not enough they eat the pure muscle-
  flesh, mostly after letting it age for some days.

By the way: I discovered that I feel a strong instinctive need to start with
the inner organs of an animal, then proceed to the head, then eat the pure
muscle-flesh. This can be practised if I buy chicken or fish from Orkos
because I get the whole animal. Also for me the taste of the organs and the
components of the head (yes even the eyes!) are very exciting. Much better
than the muscles.

Deborah:
>Are there any circumstances under which you might consider a mongoose (or
>other carnivore) instinctive quality?
If the living circumstances of the mongoose meet the Orkos-criteria for
meat that's okay. Difficult, eh?  :(

(By the way: it's troubling me a bit that meet and meat sound the same in
English. Any deeper reason for this similarity here? :-))

Deborah:
>>I tried meat of wild porks of germany. It wasn't wild
>>at all. It was a accumulation of the waste these porks ate.

>And you didn't get sick, right?
Not really sick but it got me down clearly. I got some symptoms of being
crazy like that I had from the bad eggs I ate. This I assumed to come from
the gluten-contents of the meat (which came from the wheat the animals con-
sumed) Also I felt intoxicated somehow and needed a lot of Cassia the fol-
lowing days to get rid of it.

I am glad to hear that Zephyr makes a steady recovery. And thank you Deborah
for taking the time to answer all posts detailed. You are doing a great job
!

Best raw wishes to you and Zephyr

Stefan


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