Hi Gary,
It's not me who wrote what you quote below. It's from a list member who wish
to remain anonymous, as I said.
I don't fear death at all and I have no beliefs, neither positive nor
negative as I already wrote several times. I've got enough work to respond
to critics of my own phrases without assuming the responsability of other's
mails.
Wish you a lot of wind, since you're also a windsurfer.
Francois



> >Things are just too ordered and intelligently "put together" to =
> >have happened "by chance". Laws govern everything, right down to the =
> >very atoms and beyond.
>
> francois,
>
> just admit that you fear death, and attribute more importance to your
> existence than is warranted,
> and let's be done with it, eh?  ;-)
>
> I am not sure what you believe (in an "intelligent", supernatural creator
> of the universe?).........
>
> you can of course believe what you wish, but you use words and phrases
that
> are suited to your core beliefs.
>
> - "chance" implies a certain improbability - this doesn't really mean
much,
> to call it "chance"
>      - the fact is that "intelligent designer" is an additional,
> unnecessary, unfalsifiable, contradictory layer.
>
> - "ordered" - I would like to know what this means, and how it implies
> intelligent design.
>      - you superimpose some sort of "order", which is simply reality
>      - in other words - there must be some "order", right?  should it all
> be "random"?  what would that look like?
>
> - "intelligently put together" - yes, it's called gravity (for example).
>      just because we don't understand it doesn't mean it requires some
> "intelligence"
>      - that's just anthropomorphism, isn't it?
>
> - "laws" - they do not govern anything - they are simply human concepts
> that attempt to explain reality