Aaron:
>Thanks for that info!  I wonder about Jeff.  I don't know if he is real,
>but what struck me was when he said he was still addicted to greens.  If
>he was fake, it was creative and showed quite an awareness of the nonsense
>100% fruitarians punish themselves with.

I do not think that dedicated fruitarians such as "Jeff" consider greens
part of an optimal diet. The addiction part I am sure is just a funny
prank. :)

>That he would not give you his phone number, either shows paranoia, or
>like you said, he was just playing games.

Probably a bit of both.  A shame, though, for I would love to have somebody
who has been at it for as long as "Jeff" claims to give a presentation at
one of our potlucks.  In fact, now that I think of it, if he would like to
attend our potluck next month, I can arrange for him to call somebody from
our group other than myself. He let me know of his intention to participate
less than 24 hours before the event, and I did not get the chance to think
it through clearly.  Putting on these events takes a lot of my time &
energy usually with a lot of last minute arrangements to be made. However,
I cannot believe that I am going to such lengths trying to accommodate a
man that I doubt even exists and if he does probably sees it as his purpose
in life to try to eliminate such a non-productive entity as myself - maybe
I should go a little easy on that raw milk. ;-)

>Can you share more info on the best way to eat organs.  They had liver in
>the market the other day, and I was attracted, but unsure...

At this point I am not a big organ eater myself, but liver I understand it
goes well if thrown in and blended with fresh vegetable juice.  If you make
sure that your source is good, I would suggest just eating them straight
letting your taste and smell guide you.
(See, Stefan, I have not sold out completely, yet ;-)) Of the all the
organs I tried at the potluck, the only one that was really tasty to me was
sheep's heart.  I think the best mentors you can find to inspire you to eat
raw organs are young children.  If they are introduced to them around the
age of three or four before their instincts have been too messed up by
modern, refined foods and/or negative associations, what I have been
hearing from many sources is that they cannot get enough of them.  They
will start craving them and even beg or throw tantrums to get more.  If
anybody on this list has children at this age, I would love to get some
reports back and hear if they are finding this to be true as well.

>Were the organs your friend used frozen for a particlar reason?

The main reason is convenience as they do not keep for long especially in
the quantities some of these guys are eating them. They often buy them in
bulk and freezing them is the only way to store them unless drying them at
room temperature is an option?  Another reason is that they buy a lot of
them from ethnic food stores (e.g. Armenian) where the quality cannot
always be established.  They feel the benefits way outweigh the possible
risks and try to optimize the odds in their favor by freezing them. Eating
the organs fresh from a newly killed animal is obviously the best way to
go, yet the freezing does not seem to compromise these foods very much.  To
make sure that all parasites are dead, I have been told that three days at
0 degrees F will do it.  Of course, freezing will do nothing to get rid of
environmental toxins such as heavy metals which is why I personally will
not eat organs of unknown quality.

>A friend of my girlfriend told her that when he was a boy and lived on a
>farm, when they slaughtered an animal for sale, they ALWAYS kept the
>organs.   It makes excellent sense to me because they contain, in such a
>closely related creature, everything we need to repair our own organs.

Organs contain many kinds of important micronutrients that muscle meats do
not.  E.g. if our ancestors had not eaten brains, we would probably not be
having this conversation today.  Brains (and I think also bone marrow?)
contain the essential fatty acids EPA & DHA which were crucial for the
development of our large brains.  Fish do also but were not available for
inland dwellers, and I doubt that there were enough omega 3 containing
plants (seeds such as flax and greens such as purslaine (purslane?)) around
in those days.  This is aside from the issue of how effectively the human
body can convert omega 3's into EPA & DHA which there still seems to be
some controversy about...

>This explains why when I was falling apart on a vegan diet, my body
>istinctively told me to take the form of another animal for my own.  It
>was the quickest most appropriate way to get the nutrients...

Aaron, it has been very inspiring to follow the dietary changes that you
have been going through lately.  What has taking some of us decades to
accomplish, you have done in less than a year. :(  ;-)

Best, Peter
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