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Peter Brandt <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 26 Jun 1997 15:17:13 -0500 (CDT)
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>>Not many instinctos have a prior history of consuming raw dairy so I
>>am not sure we really know.

Stefan:
>It doesn't make any difference. Nearly all instinctos have a history
>of consuming cooked dairy. And I they ever ate cheese from raw milk
>they also consumed raw dairy. Or am I wrong here? I would consider all
>products from raw milk that are gained without heat to be raw dairy.

I am not sure what you are trying to say. Any dairy product that has
never been heated is raw dairy. Most dairy products on the planet have
been heated which makes me doubt that instinctos have had much
experience with consuming them raw.

Stefan:
>Anyway, the theory says, that we are not genetically adapted to
>digesting milk from a foreign species. It was invented app. 10.000 to.
>12.000 years ago and this is far away from being long enough for
>genetic adaptation.

There obviously has been some kind of adaptation to it as different
cultures react so differently to it. The Scandinavians, especially the
Fins can attribute many of their diseases of civilization to their high
consumption of (heated)dairy products. But if you look at populations
in the Alps or the Caucasus, you will find that they for centuries have
been doing very well living to ripe old ages with a lot of either raw
and/or cultured dairy in their diets.

>Also (this is often a vegan argument) no animal in free nature drinks
>even the milk of its own species after growing up. So it is highly
>probable that we humans can't even digest the milk of our own mother
>after growing up.

Of course we can. Mother's milk is even better than raw goat's milk
which goes very well with most people.

>I strongly recommend to leave off milk and dairy of the diet, be it
>raw or not.

I think the jury is still out on this one. If people on high, raw fat
diets that include dairy can get over all kinds of incurable diseases
and when some cultures have been consuming it for centuries without any
major problems, I wonder how bad it really is.

>Peter, it's no wonder, that you aren't successful with RAF, if you
>block yourself with foreign proteins from dairy. It's already strange
>that you could eat the aged salmon.

As I have said many people are able to mix the two without any apparent
problems. That of course does not mean that I can or that they would
not do better (or worse) without. BTW my blood type is A minus which
should make me quite well adapted to dairy.

>Please describe the smell of raw fish, eggs, meat for you.

Nothing out of the ordinary here. They smell pretty much what you would
expect - not very exciting to a refined, vegan nose. ;-)

>24 hours of symptoms in the Pschyrembel.

What does "Pschyrembel" mean?

Best, Peter
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