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Jack R Payton <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 16 Jun 2001 03:11:05 -0400
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Marv/Joel:

Re: "Fonts, etc"

1. Our "Resources" start off at boot-up somewhere around 94%/86% for
GDI/User. (Thereafter, they rapidly head downward.)
2. Fonts. The foregoing Resource percentages are notwithstanding having
some 950 fonts actually *installed.* [System: Amd K6-2/350 with 128M or
256M RAM (immaterial)]
3. Thus, I don't see *fonts* as a Resource problem. Also, we haven't made
a serious effort to reduce "resource" usage. That doesn't mean we don't
have RAM memory "leaks." According to our RAM meter, RAM seems to leak
off, even after a complete reboot!

Jack Payton

On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 19:16:07 -0700 "Joel M. Blackman" <[log in to unmask]>
writes:
> Marv, when I boot up available resources are about 80% give or take a
> couple
> of points.  There are system apps running that don't show up in
> ctrl/alt/del, so a few percentage points may be those.  There is
> really no
> purpose in leaving your antivirus on all the time, nor the Norton
> System
> Doctor.  In fact, the only things I have running at startup are my
> firewall,
> the hotkeys on my keyboard, the drivers for my Cirque touchpad, and
> HP
> scanjet driver (only because it won't work without it). I have used
> Startup
> Cop to shut everything off, and have removed lines from startup
> related to
> programs I uninstalled.  Another way to cut down on resource usage
> would be
> to cut the number of fonts you're loading at startup.
> www.pcmag/utilities
> has a little free app that does that.  If you're loading 200-300
> fonts,
> that's a lot of resources.
>
> To find out what program is running just highlight the path in
> startup cop
> and click details.  It will show you what it is. If you don't reboot
> for
> several days it isn't unusual to see your resources drop.  Windows
> is famous
> for not recovering resources, and you have some apps that are not
> letting go
> as they should.  The only cures are to cut down on resources used at
> startup, and to close programs when done so that you don't have a
> lot of
> stuff on your taskbar.  It wouldn't hurt to reboot once a day
> either.  Is
> there any reason to leave Eudora running all the time?  It is a
> notorious
> resource hog.  I use Outlook 2K, which is also a resource hog, but I
> close
> the program after I get my mail.  Rarely will I leave it running
> just so it
> can automatically get my mail.  Kind of like the current energy
> crisis, you
> just need to be chincy with your resources.
>
>
> Joel,
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
> Last week I recorded the resources used by each of the items show in
> the
> "Close Program Window". With only Explorer and Systray running
> 75%-80% were
> available. I am assuming that 20% - 25% is being used by the Windows
> 98
> Operating system. Is this a correct assumption?
>
> The resource meter or Norton System Doctor use 3% each, Gator uses
> 4%,
> Winfax modem uses 8%, Norton Protect uses 1%, Hotkey uses 1%,
> .......etc.
> When I start Eudora Pro which uses 15% there is only 33% free and
> drops to
> 20% if I leave Eudora Pro on overnight.  The program seems to have a
> memory
> leak. So I turn it off every night.
>
> It is interesting that when I reboot the computer the resources
> available
> are 55% and if I don't reboot for a day or two the resources drop to
> 45%
> with no selected programs running. Does this indicate a memory leak
> in one
> of the running utilities?
>
> My next step is to associate all of the names in the Close Program
> Window
> (CPW)  with the actual utility that is running. Names like AROMN32,
> Runppdrv, Csinject. I can do this by loading each program and
> looking in
> the CPW to see what was added but do you know of a better way to
> determine
> what program is associated with each set of letters?
>
> I have the "Startup Cop" utility you mentioned. I was trying to find
> a
> solution that did not require  rebooting the computer each time.
> I'll try
> to start as you suggested using "msconfig" and then add utilities
> and
> record the usage.
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>
> Marv Trott

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