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Todd
Consider magnesium and insulin and the vicious cycle (positive feedback loop)(spiral of doom).

PhD paper: A. Hanni. Magnesium and the Insulin Resistance Syndrome, makes this conclusion:
1. Magnesium deficiency aggravates insulin resistance (i.e makes insulin levels go up).
2. Elevated insulin levels increase the excretion of magnesium in the urine.
1 makes 2 worse, 2 makes 1 even worse, 1 makes 2 even worse, 2 makes 1 even worse, 1 makes 2 even worse, etc.
Nasty, eh.
And it is so hard to measure magnesium status. The late Prof Mannsman made that clear on magnesium research lab.

Some magnesium supplements have problems.
Magnesium oxide is poorly soluble. I'm not a chemist but I remember burning magnesium and so much energy is released. It is listed as insoluble in Scientific Tables. I really find it hard to believe it can dissolve into Mg++ even in stomach acid.
CAN ANY CHEMISTS ON THE LIST SHED ANY LIGHT ON THIS?
Magnesium Chloride. I think we all know chloride increases acid load via a renal Cl/H+ pump. Salt sodium and chloride- a lot of problems are caused by the chloride. Chloride will increase your acid load which is one of the 7 Foundations of Mainstream Nutrition which are addressed by the Paleo Diet.
Magnesium Aspartate. Asparate is an amino acid and neurotransmitter. It has been implicated as an excitotoxin which can stimulate nerve cells to death just as MSGlutamate does. (Blaylock: Excitotoxins). I've not heard of glycine being an excitotoxin but I think it might be a neuotransmitter so I would look it up or ask Blaylock if he will answer before taking it.

In Australia we have a manufactured water Unique Water containing Magnesium Bicarbonate. This is very safe and effective. I don't have any connection with them, but take it myself. Mag Bicarb is not available as a powder, it is made by adding Magnesium Carbonate (or Hydroxide perhaps) to water, and then carbonating it with a soda machine.

Magnesium Bicarbonate is already in solution. Magnesium Carbonate dissolves well in stomach acid, not sure if it is used as a supplement.

I'm not an expert on magnesium, just someone who is looking for a good magnesium supplement.

Ben Balzer

> >>As a general principle, then, since insulin resistance is the engine of Metabolic Syndrome, it's worth spreading the word that Mg supplementation may help. >> 
> 
> That REALLY could explain some issues. Thanks for mentioning it. I know some mineral supplements are not bio-absorbable. What MG supplement do you use? Would any health food store version work? 
> -David 

There are a lot of opinions about this, but the consensus seems to be that the cheapest supplements, which are typically just magnesium oxide (the stuff that lifeguards put on their nose), are the least absorbable. Some sources say that Mg Chloride is preferable, and that's what's in Slo-Mag, which is readily available. So I've been using that, in conjunction with Bluebonnet Albion Mg glycinate. 

Todd 

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