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One argument countering the notion that wild animals are lean is that the organs are mostly very fatty(ie tongue/eyeballs/brain/marow/suet/hide-fat). While fat-stores in winter would be low, fat-reserves in summer would be much higher. Other than that, some species are naturally lean(rabbit?) and others much fattier by percentage(such as the mammoths, cousins of modern elephants, seals etc.).
 
Grassfed herbivores aren't necessarily so lean, but they do take much longer to gain fat-layers than those on grainfed diets. Because government regulations force grassfed (and other) cattle to be slaughtered quite young(24-30 months, average), grassfed animals don't have enough time to build up the usual fat-layers they would otherwise.
 
Re Inflammation:- Most accusations by Vegetarians and the like re animal-protein being deleterious to health, usually ignore the fact that the protein is cooked, and therefore includes plenty of inflammation-causing AGEs(advanced glycation endproducts:-
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_glycation_endproduct
 
Food-sensitivity to meats is very rare, indeed, by comparison to other types of allergy.
 
 One of the reasons why I failed miserably with a cooked, palaeaeolothic diet, years ago, was because I had adrenal burnout(and hypothyroidism) and one of the unfortunate side-effects of adrenal burnout is that one increasingly finds one cannot digest more and more animal-foods until one can't digest any with ease, and is forced to go vegetarian/raw vegan:-
 
http://www.advancedfamilyhealth.com/adrenalburnout.htm
 
. The only thing that worked, as regards icuring my digestive problems etc., was going in for a raw version of the Palaeolithic Diet.
 
You might not want to go quite that far, but I would strongly suggest that you go in for raw adrenal glandulars(and thyroid glandulars) as well. Most such supplements are highly processed, though, containing trans-fats such as magnesium stearate which prevent absorption by a factor of up to 80%. The only reliable one I know of, though hideously expensive, is Dr Ron's glandulars:-
 
 
http://www.drrons.com/
 
Geoff> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 09:06:32 -0500> From: [log in to unmask]> Subject: questions about fat, inflammation, sensitivities and more> To: [log in to unmask]> > Hi All,> > > > I've been gone from the list for a while but just signed back up. Still> dealing with various health issues and trying to find balance and health> through diet.> > > > Last year there were messages going back and forth on protein intake,> Rosedale, and others and a lot of people on this list seemed to agree that> it's best to keep protein intake at a moderate level but keep fat intake> high. However, where would paleoman have gotten a lot of fat? Animals that> graze and eat their natural diet are also naturally lean - are they not? I> buy pasture raised drug free beef and it's very lean. So what do you get> your fat intake from?> > > > I am still dealing with chronic pain (headache, backache, calf pain) and was> told to keep my protein intake to 25% of my diet. This doctor also thinks> that soy is healthy so I am not putting too much stock into his opinion on> diet, but I wonder, is there a correlation between high protein intake and> inflammation in the body?> > > > Another question have pertains to food sensitivities. I used to get ELISA> food "allergy" tests and finally realized they are a waste of money. Last> year I got one from a lab in Germany. When I received the results I realized> some new foods to be tested they supposedly added were not listed. I phoned> the lab and they reran the test with the same blood sample. Within one week> the test changed greatly in that it may have shown no reaction to a food on> the first test and then a high reaction to that same food on the second test> and vice versa. So I finally gave up on those and instead started listening> to my body. I have a definite reaction to buffalo for example. That test> indicated I react to pork but I can't identify a reaction to pork unless the> inflammation and resulting pain I am experiencing is due to eating foods I> have a reaction to, and supposedly there are many. I have been told by> naturopaths that food sensitivities are real and to avoid the offending food> for 3 to 4 months and then re-introduce them slowly. I have been told that> any reaction to an unadulterated, healthy food, i.e. organic eggs, is a> healing reaction and not an allergic reaction and to keep eating those> foods. And I have also been told that the only true food sensitivities are> to soy, dairy, wheat, gluten, and eggs, any other reactions or sensitivities> just "build" on those, and as long as I avoid those five the other> sensitivities will go away. Incidentally a saliva test checking for> anti-bodies identified a sensitivity to all five of those foods. I am not> interested in eating dairy, soy, wheat, or gluten, but I would like to eat> eggs. I can tolerate one or two yolks, but anything more than that and my> stomach goes from flat to pregnant looking and I retain a lot of fluid in my> lower body. It usually lasts the rest of the day and is gone the next> morning. There is a question here and that is, what is correct? I just don't> know what to believe anymore and at this point eating has become a chore and> something I dread.> > > > And speaking of having a pregnant looking belly and fluid retention in my> lower body, my hormones are so out of whack that for the last 17 days I have> been carrying around about an extra 10 lbs. I know the majority is fluid> retention but I am so swollen I cannot tell if I am gaining weight or not. I> am trying to go without using bio-identical hormones but I don't know how> much more of this I can take. I am so swollen it's uncomfortable to walk, my> stomach is so distended it hurts, and in general I feel so "puffy" I have to> force myself to work out. I went through the same thing in May and that time> it lasted 30 days. I had two "good" days and then it started over.> > > > So here I am with a daily headache across my forehead, upper backache, lower> backache, and calf pain, distended abdomen, fluid retention, fatigue,> possibly candida overgrowth, possibly adrenal fatigue, reactions to many,> many foods, hormonal imbalance, and more and I am not getting better. In> January it was discovered that I have elevated ferritin levels so I have> been getting regular phlebotomies. Also, my cholesterol when last checked> was 292 and while my doctor is not concerned about heart disease because my> HDL, LDL, and triglycerides are all excellent, he said it interferes with> estrogen metabolites. He wants me to reduce my fat intake and increase my> fiber intake. Too many carbs make me feel even worse and as I mentioned, I> don't really trust him when it comes to diet.> > > > Where do I go from here? I am 42 years old and aside from some hormonal> imbalance have been a healthy person up until about 6 years ago. I have seen> more doctors and have had more tests in the last 6 years than I have in my> entire life before then.> > > > Any suggestions or information as always are greatly appreciated. I love the> wealth of knowledge in this group.> > > > Kristina> > > > > > > > > > "If you think you can, you're right; if you think you can't, you're right".> Henry Ford> > 
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