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> Even Atkins taught that extreme low-carb was only an initial phase for
> a couple of weeks. Not a lifetime commitment.
> Extreme positions in almost any endeavor usually lead to disaster.
> Add SOME carbs.
>

Atkins was a realist, however zero carb is a lifetime commitment for 
some, and it is done by replacing carbs with enough animal fat.

See the fourth paragraph here:
http://activenocarber.myfreeforum.org/Bear_s_Words_Of_Wisdom_about22.html


I bet the joint pain is from a low fat diet.

William