Yes, Veggie slices offer me hope to break a cow cheese addiction. After
eating cheese everyday for 40+ years I think that using a little soy
cheese is not a big evil. Besides, it works. I'm cheese free and feeling
better. It is progress not perfection that I want.

I do appreciate the food rant by Alexs. It is nasty business to produce
processed, preserved "food" and get it to taste good.

Michael

Oliva wrote:
>
> Getting off of the dairy habit is crucial in this case and the Veggie
> Slices(brand name) are the only substitute that help right now.  It's a
> temporary thing in an emergency.   He has improved already in bp and weight
> loss.  Veggie slices are the least offensive of the soy for the purpose.
> Oliva
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: alexs
>
> >Ah, soy cheese - sorry to say, but that stuff is about as unPaleo
> >as can be. This has probably been dealt with earlier, but:
> >
> >As far as I can tell from the ingredients, it's basically tofu
> >mixed with Coffee Mate: soya derivatives plus milk-derived
> >caseinates. This from the label of Soya-Kaas brand "soy cheese".
> >Kinda the worst of agricultural and high-tech combined.
> >
> >Caseinates are the acetate-curdled insoluble proteins from
> >surplus (or expired) milk. The lactose, whey, fat and other
> >milk fractions are separated, processed and sold off as
> >profitable food additives. You can buy the stuff wholesale
> >from dairy processors in 100-lb drums. Ain't nuttin natural
> >about casein or how it's made.
> >
> >And don't you wonder how whey, lactose, casein, milkfat and
> >milk powder has crept into just about everything these days?
> >Casein in Bumble Bee brand canned tuna? Gimme a break! Milk
> >fat and lactose in Hershey's "Extra Creamy" dark chocolate?
> >The dairy lobby and their marketers must be working overtime.
> >It gets harder every day to stay Paleo.
> >
> >Coffee Mate claims it's "dairy free" but that's either a lie
> >or a damned strange definition of "dairy". The same goes for
> >so-called soy cheeses. All the manufacturer did was mix up
> >caseinate powder with some soy milk or soy curd and enough
> >other stuff to make it moldable, sliceable, and storable in
> >the grocer's "natural" foods case.
> >
> >
> >>    From:    O. <[log in to unmask]>
> >>    Subject: Re: Seven days without cheese makes one week
> >>
> >>    M.,    Good one!
> >>    Keep that soy cheese handy til you get over the hump.  You're not out
> of the
> >>    withdrawal area yet!  I would do the soy for a month were it me.  A
> cheese
> >>    habit is a tough one to break.  O.
> >>
> >>    -----Original Message-----
> >>    From: M. A. <[log in to unmask]>
> >>
> >>
> >>    I have gone the last 7 days without cheese and feel quite a bit
> different.
> >>    I did eat some soy cheese ( Veggie slices ) to tide me over the
> withdrawal.