>> Hi Kirt,
>>
>> If I am closed to what others have to say without exploring it, how can I
>> expect others to be open to what I have to say?  Throwing the baby out
with
>> the bath water never serves anyone well.
>>
>> Siobhan
>
>If you explore it and find there is no baby in the bath water, what then?
;)


I have been shown few times in my life that a baby was in the bath tub but i
was so busy swimming in my own  dirty juices that i din't realise that i was
sitting on it.
It is only when i started to drown myself  out of desesperate effort to keep
my head up , that i realised that i was not alone in that situation.
Then i realised that all those waves that i was fighting  for so many years
,was made by the baby trying to let me know he needed help to resurface.
It always have been a relief to not only know that i didn't have to fight
anymore, but that the actual experience of the baby 's presence was
wonderfull instead .
But  the interesting thing is that the baby CAN'T go thru the drain and
every time you throw away the water,  the water become cleaner and cleaner
to the point that you can't miss it anymore.
So keep rinsing other's people experience until realising that what you were
washing away was your own eyes or in other words your own  perception of
other's people experience, nothing more.
keep working on it!
jean-claude