On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:25:03 -0400, Todd Moody <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:


>Dr. Dean Ornish is looking rather plump these days, and Dr.
>Andrew Weil is just plain fat.   Both of them advocate avoidance
>of trans-fats, whole foods, and vegetarian diets.

No, I don't know them. There's a german health nutritionist (Dr.Bruker)
who's famous, but didn't appear on TV so I don't know if he was plump...

Vegetarians can become fat by overconsumption of oil.
It's an extracted food and leaves protein foods to equal out. ..
And there are not so much unbalanced veg. over-protein foods.
Cheese maybe. Nuts and Seeds are high protein and high energy.

I thought more of general health problems than of obesity with my list.

If Ornish is preaching whole foods, then he shouldn't be glucose intolerant
at least. Except he advocates cane sugar pudding....
Cane sugar (or honey) is a "whole-like" excuse for many sugar addicts - but
its awfully extracted.

Em. does Ornish/Weil recognize grain sprouting and omega-fats (like WPrice
does)?


Thanks for your references.

>> Insulin decreases d6d activity.
>> Would you postulate insulin to disable d6d delectively differently for
>> 18:0 (SFA) amd  18:3 (EFA) fatty acids?
>
>I don't know.  But consider that if I am consuming my EFA in
>short-chain form (EPA, DHA, and AA, for example) there's no
>competition anyway, because these fats are past the D6D step.
>.. So, if sufficient EPA, DHA, and AA are available, the D6D only
>needs to work on the SFAs and MUFAs, and there's no EFA
>bottleneck.

There is the possibility to supplement of course.
I'd eat some low chain (original) efas for sake of cell membranes.
You probably take fish oils?

DHA EPA AA are all ok, but how do you get your Series 1 prostaglandins?
You need ALA or GLA (primrose, hemp) or DGLA (next step) for it.

Btw i did a long chain FA test too (just arrived).
I have DHA in the upper quarter (EPA not tested).
I didn't eat any DHA for 20 years. Synthetisation works.
LA and LNA is high but they give no upper normal level.

>> Yes, this questions "modern" LC approaches and "modern"
>> paleo-inuit-reconstructing diets.
>
>It may question them, but the success of these approaches
>suggests an answer.

Meat is a much more natural, whole and vitamin containing food item
as cakes are. ..

> I really
>think the "magic" of the Anchell diet is just as Rachel said: It
>is forcing me to adopt a disciplined approach that cuts carbs and
>calories in the process.  It allows me no dietary corners to hide
>in.

Simply LC or neanderthin or Hayes seperation or ER4YT may work
the same way.
Of course requires much discipline.

but now... out into the blue

Amadeus