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Ingrid Bauer/J-C Catry <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 9 Jun 2000 00:08:24 -0700
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>Instinctual eating has always been a very important concept to me
>(not "instincto").
>I always try to listen to my feelings before i prepare something.
>Before i prepare it.
>Of course this is easier for raw things like a berry or dandelion,
>than before having a cooked food.
>I've to think about (Burgers claim)
>how much cooking or roasting alters our perceptions
>I try to do most in my imagination before, anyway.
>
>I realized, that roasting of food items high in protein comes out
>very tasty.
>Meat and likewise roasted sunflowers or pumpkin seeds (delicious).
>To me though eating meat for 25 years, i hardly ever realized *any* taste
>of meat, except that certain arome which comes from roasting
>(and similar you can roast a pumpkin seed .. or anything).
>Meanwhile i have understood that you (Jean-Claude) and some others
>*do* have developped a taste for unsalted, unspiced raw meat.
>What i read at instincto articles, however looks a bit like the main
>taste developement comes from the varoius bacteria from "ageing".
>
>If I may comment a subjective impression on "instincto"
>as a way of eating: It may lead to preferred eating of mostly rich
>(ecologically  "expensive") things, like the meat of course or luxury
fruit.

plerase don't confond the principles of anapsology with the attempts at
practicing them.!
it doen't have to !

i don't see meats consumption as ecologically expensive as before. When i
eat a deer for example that graze on ocean spray, arbutus ,fir ,cedar
,willows and others   plants folliage that i have no instinctive
attraction to eat. i contribute to the regulation of growth of thoses
plants. Without it this forest,  allready so lush that it is difficult to
travel thru ,will be impenetrable.

the wise use of ressources is not dependant on what category of foods the
species feed  on  ( either animals or plants) ,it is just a question of
being at the right place at the right time in the food web . All species
have an instinctive drive to be at that place. Eating is a dance of energy
fluctuating from one species to an other.

>As in burgers sexuality episodes - a total unlimited access to everything
>wantable... isn't a historic anchestral experience, is it?

yes and it is not reserved to instinctos ,this all exponential quest to get
everything we want started a long time ago and comes to its limitations.
 the earth being round we will have to see those limitations)
and
that is very interesting ,because it is this separation proper to human
splitted mind,  between what we  want and what we need ,  it is this split,
that instintive eating propose to heal and resolve.
The  unfulfilled and unfullfulling desires created from not getting what we
need dissipate when the core needs are met.
This state of desperate wanting is there obvious in our culture ,. and
specially in the way we try to fulfill the basic nutritional needs . The
whole cooking culture is based on the preconceived idea that  what our
environment is
offering to  us to eat is not  good enough, .
The act of wanting to change what IS,  doesn't dissipate overnight even when
you take the decision to surrender by resigning to be  in charge of what is
needed to eat.
Taking that decision is scary enough for the selfserving will,  that it is
not a surprise
that this ego try to catch up by other'ways to take back some power .
The instinctos don't escape that one and when  they can't control anymore
their source of   satisfaction  by cooking,  they invente new  outsides
sources of pleasure like exotic fruits.
The all idea of instinctive eating is based in my opinion on letting go of
control of what can makes us happy and content.
Every time i started to think that i knew something ,i lost the magic of
deep joy. Many instinctos playing the game had incredible blissfull
experiences with the most coarse ot trivial food like a black radish or a
leek.
( nobody could expect to get a deep sens of satisfaction by eating a black
radish)
I heard Burger himself pointing out that we need to be in constant state of
questionning.
the fear of loosing something from surrendering to a wiser decision maker
than our own will,  have to be faced when making the move toward  not
interfering on the nature of our food. Depending on how it is dealt with,  a
new relationship to this part of the environment that we integrate  in
ourselves ( food),  is starting to establish itself or the old one resurface
and it doesn't mater if the food is left undenatured the magic doen't
happen.

YOu question the need for a raw undenatured context to be able to eat
instinctively, It might not have to be that way but when we makes the
decison of cooking we  allready lost the faith that our  needs  could be
satisfied if we didn't .


I believe our instincts are there to bring us what we need and that it works
thru the principle of pleasure.
We are so used to believe that we don't  inherently deserve happiness,that
we seek this happinness in our terms. BY wanting to guarantee it , by fear
of taking the risk to lose what we got , we miss a lot.

jean-claude

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