Hi
Do you take calcium in conjunction with the magnesium?
Sandy
 
In a message dated 5/4/2011 4:59:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
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Todd
Consider magnesium and insulin and the vicious cycle  (positive feedback 
loop)(spiral of doom).

PhD paper: A. Hanni.  Magnesium and the Insulin Resistance Syndrome, makes 
this conclusion:
1.  Magnesium deficiency aggravates insulin resistance (i.e makes insulin 
levels  go up).
2. Elevated insulin levels increase the excretion of magnesium in  the 
urine.
1 makes 2 worse, 2 makes 1 even worse, 1 makes 2 even worse, 2  makes 1 
even worse, 1 makes 2 even worse, etc.
Nasty, eh.
And it is so  hard to measure magnesium status. The late Prof Mannsman made 
that clear on  magnesium research lab.

Some magnesium supplements have  problems.
Magnesium oxide is poorly soluble. I'm not a chemist but I  remember 
burning magnesium and so much energy is released. It is listed as  insoluble in 
Scientific Tables. I really find it hard to believe it can  dissolve into Mg++ 
even in stomach acid.
CAN ANY CHEMISTS ON THE LIST SHED  ANY LIGHT ON THIS?

Magnesium Chloride. I think we all know chloride  increases acid load via a 
renal Cl/H+ pump. Salt sodium and chloride- a lot of  problems are caused 
by the chloride. Chloride will increase your acid load  which is one of the 7 
Foundations of Mainstream Nutrition which are addressed  by the Paleo Diet.
Magnesium Aspartate. Asparate is an amino acid and  neurotransmitter. It 
has been implicated as an excitotoxin which can stimulate  nerve cells to 
death just as MSGlutamate does. (Blaylock: Excitotoxins). I've  not heard of 
glycine being an excitotoxin but I think it might be a  neuotransmitter so I 
would look it up or ask Blaylock if he will answer before  taking it.

In Australia we have a manufactured water Unique Water  containing 
Magnesium Bicarbonate. This is very safe and effective. I don't  have any connection 
with them, but take it myself. Mag Bicarb is not available  as a powder, it 
is made by adding Magnesium Carbonate (or Hydroxide perhaps)  to water, and 
then carbonating it with a soda machine.

Magnesium  Bicarbonate is already in solution. Magnesium Carbonate 
dissolves well in  stomach acid, not sure if it is used as a supplement.

I'm not an expert  on magnesium, just someone who is looking for a good 
magnesium  supplement.

Ben Balzer

> >>As a general principle,  then, since insulin resistance is the engine 
of Metabolic Syndrome, it's worth  spreading the word that Mg supplementation 
may help. >> 
>  
> That REALLY could explain some issues. Thanks for mentioning it. I  know 
some mineral supplements are not bio-absorbable. What MG supplement do  you 
use? Would any health food store version work? 
> -David  

There are a lot of opinions about this, but the consensus seems to be  that 
the cheapest supplements, which are typically just magnesium oxide (the  
stuff that lifeguards put on their nose), are the least absorbable. Some  
sources say that Mg Chloride is preferable, and that's what's in Slo-Mag,  which 
is readily available. So I've been using that, in conjunction with  
Bluebonnet Albion Mg glycinate. 

Todd 

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