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Amadeus Schmidt <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 23 Apr 2003 06:22:32 -0500
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> Amadeus, you wrote:
>
> after 6 vegan weeks finished now
> after some kg weight-loss friends have noticed but I can't explain
> I must be around 70kg
>
> Were you referring to yourself or Todd?

That's where I am now, currently.
Every year before easter I have a 6 week long vegan time.
I was inspired to this by reading that some pope allowed the bavarians after
the year 1460 to eat butter (milk products) in the historical lent time.
"because there is no olive tree in bavaria"
Before that, the times of Lent (right word?) were obviously totally free of
animal products. Even no butter. And there were 4 big times of such a
nutrition break over the year, historically. And they were there in
pre-christian times. It's easy to to see that the springtime, where few
fruit(of any plants) are available a nutrition change will have occured in
any humans living in a region with seasons.
So I decided to try that (20 years ago) to give my body a break in terms of
incomeing proteins, toxins, fats or whatever.
It took 3 weeks for me to feel particular good, somewhat quicker and
sharper. So good, that I at first decided to keep this regime. Alas, my wife
wanted to use milk products - so I ended up vegetarian plus the breaks.

My vegan times are not Ray-Audette-paleo (who once described himself to be
anti-vegetarian).
I do eat legumes (lentils, chickpeas) frequently for example - which I know
have been eaten where available in paleo times. I do eat cereals too. It's
hardly ever wheat, although I know it doesn't bother me.
But oats, rye, rice. I know paleo people ate them too (but probably only in
season in early times).
Plus a few grains from other families (Quinoa, buckwheat, sesame, nuts..).
I'm still the fan of fat which I enjoy very much (of plants).
And I enjoy to drink a glass of beer or wine in the evening.
I hate sweets.

Sorry for the R.A.-purists for this.
I am however always inspired by my feelings to the taste of the various
available food items. Like with the avocado for breakfast today.
When I looked at it, I knew it would be great - and it was great.
A great whole fruit.
In this way, Todd's essay is familiar to me.

I'm far from low-carbing. Or carb-counting. Or calorie counting.
The most important thing in my impression over all the reading and talking
is that *insulin* must be low for a big part of the day.
While still getting the essentials, the protein, vitamins, minerals *and* a
sufficuent amout of energy (2400 kcal or so).
The best attempt so far to reach this (besides low-carbing) is for me
the insulin index work. See graphic and references below
http://www.geocities.com/paleolix/#insulin

Andrew, fat is beeing metabolized and burned most of the day - not only in
ketosis. Ketosis is when the body can't maintain "normal" lipolysis and is
forced into production of ketone bodies due to lack of a carb-derived
substrate (see http://www.zonehome.com/met/metlipid.htm point 6.). Out of
ketosis fat burns neatly in the Krebs cycle, with a maximum of energy output
(provided the necessary vitamins were there).

My own weight decreased in the last months a few kg from a maximum of 76 to
about 70 kg now (I don't have a scale yet). I don't know why. I never had to
restrict myself (thanks god). Most of the time I eat as much as I want or
even as much as I can with the lots of salads I eat.
It could be that my protein intake went down a little (remember DIT?).
I even have my body oiled regularly in ayurvedic oil massage - and a lot of
the oil is absorbed and "eaten" by the skin.

regards

Amadeus
http://www.geocities.com/paleolix/2002white.jpg

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