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 Saiks,
 
 I will find the passage for you but what is says is to "tell the believing women to cover themselves and the believing men to lower their gaze. Covering of hair and dressing in a moderate way that does not reveal a woman's form or expose your bossom, see through clothing etc is what the sunnah of Rasululllah says.
  I have seen sisters cover everything and just leave peepholes for their eyes but my belief is that some of those extremes are cultural.
 
 Jabou
  
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 Subject: Re: Position Available: Women's Human Rights and Religion
 
  Sister Jabou, 
 
 Interesting to learn from you a new thing in this debate.I was listening to a debate on the issue and one of the Muslim ladies in the debate insisted that there is no mention of the Hijab in the koran.May be I over heard this or that she was referring to the extreme form (could not remember the name),mostly seen in Afghanistan,until in one of my trip back home when i saw some Gambian women under that hot sun dressing that way.Which of the many forms is mentioned in the koran ? 
 For freedom 
 Saiks 
 
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 >Subject: Re: Position Available: Women's Human Rights and Religion 
 >Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:41:03 -0400 
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 >Suntou, 
 > 
 > Your point about Muslims inability to defend Islam reminds me of the time >right after 9/11 when the wife of King Abdallah of Jordan was being >interviewed on American television and the issue came to Hijab, that sharp >thorn in the sides of the enemies of Islam and favourite propaganda tool. >Instead of saying that it says in Qur'an to "tell the muslim women to cover >themselves" she started talking about how it is just something that is a >preference etc. Granted that some of us do not wear hijab, but that >definitely does not take away from the fact that it is something that the >Qur'an definitely specifically prescribes. 
 > There are so many examples where this sort of thing is happning and it is >largely driven by some people's need to be accepted so they think that they >can serve as appologists for the tenets of the deen otherwise they will be >seen as not modern and so-called fundamentalists whatever that term means. 
 > The one that amazes me the most is the one about reforming Islam which is >largely driven by total ignorance about the deen. How, I wonder does one >reform the words of Allah (SWT) 
 > 
 > Jabou 
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 > true jabou , the late sheik omar bun jeng stated it clearly in one of >his 
 >lectures ,he remark that ' the current methods of down grading islam is >taking 
 >different forms and shapes .he went on the west cannot use there faith to 
 >put any cridible challenge against islam since most of what they are >calling 
 >there faith went through different interfarances so the only methods left >at 
 >there disposal is to use emotional subjects in islamic countries and blow >it out 
 > 
 >of context and proportion and who is better to do the job for them ,us 
 >muslims.the resouces allocated for anti-islamic propaganda is about 75% of 
 >the total propaganda budget for brainwashing muslims this is mostly women 
 >issues''. this is actually working ,many muslims even in the gambia today >can 
 >stand up and make comments about islam without any knowledge of what 
 >they are talking about. 
 >subliminally we are all affected by different propaganda tools.i will >forward a 
 >link of a lecture by an american scholar yasaer quadi about muslims >inability to 
 > 
 >defend islam in the modern onslaugt by the west . 
 >an example is ,if one ask a muslim why do you fast ,they will start saying 
 >fasting make me remember the hungry people accross the globe and so on. 
 >whilst the simple answer is it is priscripe by god for me to fast .Allah >says i 
 >fast .but we are scared that we will be look upon as mad men. 
 > 
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