Mr Darbo, I just realised the subject line of this particular email
doesn't contain any indication it is a forward. I did rectify that in
the subsequent forwards. My apologies for the oversight.
Edi Jah
2009/6/2 Edi Jah <[log in to unmask]>:
> Mr Darboe,
>
> Since I am not the author and the subject line is marked as a hadith
> forward, there is no need to issue a disclaimer on my part. I will not
> advocate for Sharia to be imposed on anyone. All I am doing is sharing
> these pieces here after reading it, because people here might find the
> messages contained in it valuable.
>
> Is that your hat in the ring for president then? Now are you aware
> which hunters and green boys will interpret your announcement as an
> invite to your neighbourhood. ;-)
>
> Edi Jah
>
>
>
> 2009/6/1 Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>:
>> Very well Mr. Jah. I encourage you to share such disclaimers and
>> discernments when you enlighten us on the Qur'An and Sunnah.
>> I encourageyou to revisit your idea of "Imposing Sharia" And "On MUSLIMS". I
>> understand you do not desire it imposed on non-muslims.
>> BTW, I admire evangelism and evangelists. I meant it as honour. I only
>> cringe at lost value in evanglism and accrued interest for the native.
>> I consider myself your companion in Islam/Mu'Umin's journey. I look forward
>> to the inevitable and divinely-ordained and desirable confluence of creeds.
>> Haruna. Our Christian, Jewish, and Buddhist witnesses are our alter-egos. I
>> think Gambia ought to have a Supreme Religious Council not separate supreme
>> councils for every religion doing business in Gambia. When I become
>> President of The Republic of Gambia, that will be among my discretionary
>> considerations. Discretionary SUntou. So I do not need your votes for that.
>> That Jaawula better be in line for my 1-year probationary period. The
>> she announces herself, the better for her court. MQJGDT. Darbo. WOnder what
>> happened to our sister Ginny? Might you know mr. Jah? We know where Mams
>> (Edi Sidibeh, your namesake) is.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Edi Jah <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Sun, 31 May 2009 7:43 pm
>> Subject: Re: An Ignorant Judge
>>
>> Mr Darbo,
>>
>> ''Lakum deenikum walyadeen'' indeed. I don't consider myself an
>> evangelist, even though I will be sharing these Hadith snippets here
>> regularly. Thus, I'm inviting forumites to join me on my spiritual
>> journey. I am not advocating for Sharia to be imposed on non-muslims.
>> In Saudi Arabia there are areas where expats/non-muslims can live
>> their life's with some autonomy from Sharia. My position is not that
>> different from yours.
>>
>> Edi Jah
>>
>> On 29/05/2009, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> Mr. Jah,
>>> WHile I admire your evangelism for Islam, I share with you that in all
>>> nations, the truth is the constitution of the peoples and their attendant
>>> ammendments. Allah has provided for that in the Qur'an and Sunnah. And the
>>> disclaimer, Lakum deenikum walyadeen, is the lifeblood of the Shariahs of
>>> nations who adopt Shariah as their constitution. Even then, it is not
>>> Shariah
>>> unless ratified by the most of their qualitative numbers and ammended in
>>> due
>>> regard to extraneous populations as to religion.
>>>
>>> Wa maa Tafarraqoo iLLa min Ba'adi Maa Jaa'A humul Elmu, Baqyah bainahum
>>> wa-lawlaa Kalimatun sabaqat min rabbika illaa Ajalin Musammaa, laqudiya
>>> bainahum. wa-Inna Lletheena Oorethoo-l Kitaaba min ba'Adihim Lafee
>>> Shaa'Inn
>>> minhu mureebin.
>>> Fa-lithaalika Fa-Ad'U wa-Astaqim kamaa Umirrta, waLaa Ta-tTabi'e
>>> Ahwaa-Ahum; waqul; Aamantu
>> Bimaa Anthala Llaahu min kitaabin, wa-Umirtu
>>> Li-A'Adila
>>> bainakumoo. Allahu Rabbunaa wa-Rabbukum. lanaa A'amaalunaa walakum
>>> A'amaalukum; Laa hujjata bainanaa wabainakumoo. Allaahu yajma'U bainanaa,
>>> wa-Ilayhil
>>> Maceeru. Haruna. Revealed to Muhammad in Mecca as message to Meccans,
>>> mainly the Hunafaa, of whom Muhammad had been one himself.
>>>
>>> What I intended to share was that law is audience-specific even if
>>> religion
>>> might not be. (It will take a lot of time to convince one that religion
>>> is
>>> also people-specific, and I don't have that time). However, in Allah's
>>> infinite wisdom, he has established this impression in Muhammad that he
>>> ought
>>> not transgress on other peoples and their laws unless they be heathens
>>> and
>>> do not believe in creation and ecological equilibrium. Therefore they
>>> pillaged the earth, ravaged the peoples, sans compunction and contrition.
>>> I
>>> do
>>> however appreciate your regard of Shariah as law for you. That issues
>>> only
>>> from these and those conflations. MQJGDT. Darbo.
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 5/29/2009 11:51:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> [log in to unmask] writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rasul Allah (sal Allahu alaihi wasallam) said: “Judges are of three types,
>>> two of them will go to the Hellfire and one type will go to Paradise. The
>>> one who knows the truth and judges with it – he is
>> in Paradise. One who
>>> knows the truth but doesn’t judge by it, will go to Hellfire. The one who
>>> doesn’
>>> t know the truth and judges between people with ignorance, will go to the
>>> Hellfire.” [Abu Daud, Tirmidhi]
>>>
>>> What the truth is, is determined by Allah (subhana wa ta’ala). He has
>>> spelt it out for us in the Shariah, that is the Quran and Sunnah. If a
>>> person
>>> passes judgment according to his or her own standards of right and wrong,
>>> rather than what Allah has declared as right or wrong, then that judge is
>>> judging with ignorance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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