GAMBIA-L Archives

The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List

GAMBIA-L@LISTSERV.ICORS.ORG

Options: Use Forum View

Use Monospaced Font
Show Text Part by Default
Show All Mail Headers

Message: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Topic: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Author: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]

Print Reply
Subject:
From:
Reply To:
The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]>
Date:
Tue, 2 Jun 2009 00:37:11 +0100
Content-Type:
text/plain
Parts/Attachments:
text/plain (187 lines)
Mr Darboe,

Since I am not the author and the subject line is marked as a hadith
forward, there is no need to issue a disclaimer on my part. I will not
advocate for Sharia to be imposed on anyone. All I am doing is sharing
these pieces here after reading it, because people here might find the
messages contained in it valuable.

Is that your hat in the ring for president then? Now are you aware
which hunters and green boys will interpret your announcement as an
invite to your neighbourhood. ;-)

Edi Jah



2009/6/1 Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>:
> Very well Mr. Jah. I encourage you to share such disclaimers and
> discernments when you enlighten us on the Qur'An and Sunnah.
> I encourageyou to revisit your idea of "Imposing Sharia" And "On MUSLIMS". I
> understand you do not desire it imposed on non-muslims.
> BTW, I admire evangelism and evangelists. I meant it as honour. I only
> cringe at lost value in evanglism and accrued interest for the native.
> I consider myself your companion in Islam/Mu'Umin's journey. I look forward
> to the inevitable and divinely-ordained and desirable confluence of creeds.
> Haruna. Our Christian, Jewish, and Buddhist witnesses are our alter-egos. I
> think Gambia ought to have a Supreme Religious Council not separate supreme
> councils for every religion doing business in Gambia. When I become
> President of The Republic of Gambia, that will be among my discretionary
> considerations. Discretionary SUntou. So I do not need your votes for that.
> That Jaawula better be in line for my 1-year probationary period. The
> she announces herself, the better for her court. MQJGDT. Darbo. WOnder what
> happened to our sister Ginny? Might you know mr. Jah? We know where Mams
> (Edi Sidibeh, your namesake) is.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Edi Jah <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Sun, 31 May 2009 7:43 pm
> Subject: Re: An Ignorant Judge
>
> Mr Darbo,
>
> ''Lakum deenikum walyadeen'' indeed. I don't consider myself an
> evangelist, even though I will be sharing these Hadith snippets here
> regularly. Thus, I'm inviting forumites to join me on my spiritual
> journey. I am not advocating for Sharia to be imposed on non-muslims.
> In Saudi Arabia there are areas where expats/non-muslims can live
> their life's with some autonomy from Sharia. My position is not that
> different from yours.
>
> Edi Jah
>
> On 29/05/2009, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Mr. Jah,
>> WHile I admire your evangelism for Islam, I share with you that in all
>> nations, the truth is the constitution of the peoples and their attendant
>> ammendments. Allah has provided for that in the Qur'an and Sunnah. And the
>> disclaimer, Lakum deenikum walyadeen, is the lifeblood of the Shariahs of
>> nations who adopt Shariah as their constitution. Even then, it is not
>> Shariah
>> unless ratified by the most of their qualitative numbers and ammended in
>> due
>> regard to extraneous populations as to religion.
>>
>> Wa maa Tafarraqoo iLLa min Ba'adi Maa Jaa'A humul Elmu, Baqyah bainahum
>> wa-lawlaa Kalimatun sabaqat min rabbika illaa Ajalin Musammaa, laqudiya
>> bainahum. wa-Inna Lletheena Oorethoo-l Kitaaba min ba'Adihim Lafee
>> Shaa'Inn
>> minhu mureebin.
>> Fa-lithaalika Fa-Ad'U wa-Astaqim kamaa Umirrta, waLaa Ta-tTabi'e
>> Ahwaa-Ahum; waqul; Aamantu
> Bimaa Anthala Llaahu min kitaabin, wa-Umirtu
>> Li-A'Adila
>> bainakumoo. Allahu Rabbunaa wa-Rabbukum. lanaa A'amaalunaa walakum
>> A'amaalukum; Laa hujjata bainanaa wabainakumoo. Allaahu yajma'U bainanaa,
>> wa-Ilayhil
>> Maceeru. Haruna. Revealed to Muhammad in Mecca as message to Meccans,
>> mainly the Hunafaa, of whom Muhammad had been one himself.
>>
>> What I intended to share was that law is audience-specific even if
>> religion
>>  might not be. (It will take a lot of time to convince one that religion
>> is
>> also  people-specific, and I don't have that time). However, in Allah's
>> infinite  wisdom, he has established this impression in Muhammad that he
>> ought
>> not  transgress on other peoples and their laws unless they be heathens
>> and
>> do not  believe in creation and ecological equilibrium. Therefore they
>> pillaged the  earth, ravaged the peoples, sans compunction and contrition.
>> I
>> do
>> however  appreciate your regard of Shariah as law for you. That issues
>> only
>> from these  and those conflations. MQJGDT. Darbo.
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 5/29/2009 11:51:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> [log in to unmask] writes:
>>
>>
>>
>> Rasul Allah (sal Allahu alaihi wasallam) said: “Judges are of three types,
>> two of them will go to the Hellfire and one type will go to Paradise. The
>> one  who knows the truth and judges with it – he is
> in Paradise. One who
>> knows the  truth but doesn’t judge by it, will go to Hellfire. The one who
>> doesn’
>> t know  the truth and judges between people with ignorance, will go to the
>> Hellfire.”  [Abu Daud, Tirmidhi]
>>
>> What the truth is, is determined by Allah (subhana  wa ta’ala). He has
>> spelt it out for us in the Shariah, that is the Quran and  Sunnah. If a
>> person
>> passes judgment according to his or her own standards of  right and wrong,
>> rather than what Allah has declared as right or wrong, then  that judge is
>> judging with ignorance.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go  to the Gambia-L
>> Web interface at:  http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html
>> To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to:
>> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the
>> List  Management, please send an
>> e-mail to: [log in to unmask]
>>
>> **************We found the real ‘Hotel California’ and the ‘Seinfeld’
>> diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com.
>>
>> (http://www.whereitsat.com/#/music/all-spots/355/47.796964/-66.374711/2/Youve-Found-Where-Its-At?ncid=eml
>> cntnew00000007)
>>
>> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
>> To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L
>> Web interface
>> at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html
>>
>> To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to:
>> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l
>> To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:
>> [log in to unmask]
>> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
>>
>
> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
> To unsubscrib
> e/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web
> interface
> at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html
>
> To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to:
> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l
> To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:
> [log in to unmask]
> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
>
> ________________________________
> Wanna slim down for summer? Go to America Takes it Off to learn how.
> ���������������������������������������������������������¤ To
> unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web
> interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html
>
> To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to:
> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the
> List Management, please send an e-mail to:
> [log in to unmask]
> ���������������������������������������������������������¤


To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface
at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html

To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l
To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:
[log in to unmask]


ATOM RSS1 RSS2