Haruna,
There is fine line between a genuine thread for discussion and one that
flames. I am hoping that all subscribers will take it upon ourselves to
learn to differentiate the two. Not self-censorship but shared
responsibility in keeping the L a wonderful bantaba.
Malanding
Haruna Darbo wrote:
> Kukeh,
>
> I tend to lean toward Suntou forwarding notes from Mathew and anyone
> else. Also I appreciate Pasamba and any one else to challenge such
> notes. I do honour and appreciate you for advising sobriety in as much
> as the exchanges go. Perhaps the need to have Suntou forward his notes
> here would encourage Mathew to subscribe if only as an intermittent
> contributor.
>
> When challenged, Mathew can peruse the archives or I encourage Suntou
> to forward any challenges to him so he can respond in good time if he
> wished. This will help keep Ellen lively and dynamic. And you will not
> be accused of restricting comment.
>
> It may be extremely difficult to change personalities and their
> entertainment values. And it may take away from your valuable time
> trained toward commoner good. As long as the subscriber or contributor
> is of adult age and sound mind, the onus ought to be on them to act
> with propriety and a modicum of sobriety. No one needs a subscription
> to access the archives and anyone can subscribe or be sponsored to
> join us should they wish. In fact I will encourage active participants
> to alert inactive (archive-rover) participants whenever a challenge is
> directed their way that did not issue from any comment he/she made
> here. This will afford the maligned an opportunity to defend
> themselves. I say only deceased persons and minors ought not be
> challenged here. Even that is only a wish of mine. I may not be able
> to affect others' compass.
>
> Anyway Kukeh, I appreciate your guardianship and wisdom. That is why I
> don't want you to overwhelm yourself for nought.
> Haruna.
>
> In a message dated 4/21/2009 1:39:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> Dr Jaiteh, just for this topic allow Mathew to respond to any
> question directed at him. After this, i reserve the right to
> forward writings i find appealing. of course, Mathew like Halifa
> have been around in Gambian journalistic circles for a long time
> and they all deserve our attention. This doesn't mean, accepting
> what they say or following them, it only means giving others a
> chance to have their say. I thank you Dr Jaiteh for the diplomatic
> way you handle sensitive issues here. As an elder, i say balalma
> for making you over watchful on material emanating from my angle.
> But i have done the best to be respectful and polite. On issues of
> national interest, it is unwise to be a tiger without claws, just
> puffing. I respect bailo and will continue to do so. We share
> something more important than party political differences.
> Suntou
>
> --- On *Tue, 21/4/09, Malanding Jaiteh /<[log in to unmask]>/* wrote:
>
> From: Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Mathew K Jallow's item
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Tuesday, 21 April, 2009, 6:26 PM
>
> Pasamba,
> I believe we are giving this thread undeserved attention. In addition
> Mathew is not a member of the L to respond to any queries. I am
> confident that Suntou recognize folly in forwarding it in the first
> place and would recall it if he could. This is one of those rare moments
> MUNYAL/ SABARR is called for.
>
> Malanding Jaiteh
>
>
>
> pasamba jow wrote:
> > Demba,
> > Mathew has no credibility and cannot be taken seriously. I just have a
> > few questions for him
> > How can a person who was visited by the military brass to offer him a
> > ministerial post stand in the street like a spectator and even run
> > away?Which storey building was this and who is the owner.?What
> > relation does Halifa have with the owner to run into a building?Can he
> > name one Gambian who is still alive as witness?
> > I hope he will help us by answering these questions. I remember that
> > day vividly and was in constant contact with Halifa and other PDOIS
> > members. I will await his response.
> > Pasamba
> >
> > "True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence
>
> > of justice." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
> >
> > --- On *Tue, 4/21/09, Demba Baldeh /<[log in to unmask]>/* wrote:
> >
> > From: Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Mathew K Jallow's item
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 3:39 AM
> >
> > Did Matthew not know who Halifa was at the time? Ask uncle DA if
> > Matthew did not know who Halifa was. Who would confused Halifa,
> > Sedia and Sam Sarr with anyone else in the Gambia?
> > You know guys credibility is about everything. Without credibility
> > a story and its teller has no validity. Suntu and Matthew are in
> > the same boat "Rebels wihtout a course" looking for
> attention
> > in anyway they can get it.
> >
> > The mind is a terrible thing to waste and knowledge without common
> > sense is a sad combination. Dr. King once said " If a man cannot
> > find something to die for, then they probably are not worth
> living"
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:39 PM, yanks dabo <[log in to unmask]
> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> >
> > Suntu
> >
> > I told you Bailo won't be happy with your revelation, but
> tell
> > him to get lost.
> > What's wrong with Halifa leaving a trail of dust behind him.
> > Only that dim-wit,
> > Muhammed Drammeh, would regard that as cowardice; then you
> > wonder what
> > is wrong with being cowardice after all.
> >
> > James Boswell wrote in the "life of Samuel Johnson",
> 1971:
> >
> > "/It is thus that mutual cowardice keeps us in peace. /
> > /Were one half of mankind brave and one half cowards, /
> > /the brave would be always beating the cowards. /
> > /Were all brave, they would lead a very uneasy life; /
> > /all would be continually fighting: but being all cowards, /
> > /we go very well". /
> >
> > Therefore, being cowards is not criminal after all for it
> > keeps us in peace.
> > In fact *all mortals are cowards for they fear dead*, simple!
> >
> > Yanks
> >
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:03:59 +0000
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > Subject: Re: Mathew K Jallow's item
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > Suntou wrote: "I don't hate anyone".That cannot be
> true, you
> > know that and we know that.
> > Suntou also stated: "Trust no politician, the game is
> SELF."
> > Trust me, the political profession contrary to your
> > understanding is not always about SELF. Sir Edward Francis
> > Small, Nelson Mandela, Mahatma Ghandi, Halifa Sallah, Seedia
> > Jatta!
> >
> > Look before you leap and think before you write.
> >
> > Bailo
> >
> >
> > i don't hate anyone. It is a political exchange, bringing
> > what may be of interest to some members is not tantamount
> > to hate. Our politics should pass the stage of sensoship
> > and comfort zones. The item produce by Mathew can be
> > challange and it should be challange. Those that mean, all
> > card should be off the table for reconcialiation talks?
> > Halifa trying to safe his life is no crime and it should
> > not be. I will run if that means geting away from the
> > thugs. He is no super-man. You are well aware Karim that,
> > our own labour government is going through a bad patch.
> > The party is under intensive scrutiny for many things, And
> > rightly so. I, like many ordinary folks don't trust
> > politicians, And that will include you Karim, haruna, Dr
> > Jaiteh or whoever enters politics. Trust no politician,
> > the game is SELF.
> >
> >
> > --- On *Mon, 20/4/09, abdoukarim sanneh
> > /<[log in to unmask]
> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>/* wrote:
> >
> > From: abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]
> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> > Subject: Re: Mathew K Jallow's item
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 5:10 PM
> >
> > Suntou
> > To honest I agree with Dr Jaiteh's statement. I
> don't
> > know why you hate an individual as it is the problem.
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:59:38 +0000
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Mathew K Jallow's item
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > It is an instruction malanding,
> >
> > --- On *Mon, 20/4/09, Malanding Jaiteh
> > /<[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>/* wrote:
> >
> > From: Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]
> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> > Subject: Re: Mathew K Jallow's item
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 4:50 PM
> >
> > Suntou, I think you are a very fine man to go this
> > lane. This is very low. I sincerely hope you will
> > find time to re-examine you position. Malanding
> > Jaiteh SUNTOU TOURAY wrote: > Suntou please post
> > for me on the G-L. Thanks: > It was a warn
> > Tabo-Koto July mid-morning in 1994. The time was
> > around 9.30 am . The coup was in progress, but I
> > did not know it yet. As I headed for the
> > Latri-Kunda car park for The Daily Observer in
> > Bakau, I notice something very strange. Everyone
> > in Tabo-Koto and Fagi-Kunda seemed to be coming
> > towards my direction and there were no moving
> > vehicles on the roads. As I walked towards the car
> > park, I kept asking people I met what was going
> > on, but no one really knew. Around the Latri-Kunda
> > market, I saw people I knew and went to them. They
> > thought a coup was in progress, but were not sure.
> > I decided to press on to Sere-Kunda. I walked all
> > the way to Sere-Kunda market as many other people
> > were also doing. Throughout the trip, military
> > vehicles were coming and going either towards
> > Brikama or Banjul . There was a large crowd of
> > confused citizens around Sere-Kunda market who had
> > idea what was going on either. Everyone saw what I
> > saw; soldiers with guns driving ceaselessly up and
> > down the streets. At the Sere- Kunda police
> > station, a group of soldiers had surrounded the
> > station; trapping all the police officers inside.
> > Outside the station another crowd of curious
> > onlookers gathered. I elbowed and shouldered my
> > way through the crowd to a military officer
> > standing outside the station main door, who liked
> > like he was the leader of the military contingent
> > and I asked him what was going on.
> > "Mr. Jallow, get out of here.� He
> said. I repeated my question and
> > he repeated his answer. So I walked back. I was
> > able to gather pieces of information here and
> > there and I went to Sweabou Conateh's newspaper
> > office at the Sere-Kunda market and called the
> > Observer and the Point to file a report. I think I
> > was the only reporter out and about gathering news
> > on that day.
> > Everyone else from the Observer to the Point and
> Sweabou’s Gambia News
> > were holed up in the safety of their offices. In
> > any case, after three hours, I began to the long
> > walk back to Fagi Kunda. Around the twin storey
> > building near where the Brikama Highway branches
> > into the Banjul and Sere- Kunda roads, I found a
> > group of about five people standing by the side of
> > the road talking rather animatedly. The gentleman
> > in the middle was doing the talking while everyone
> > else listened. I stopped to listen to what they
> > were discussing, but within a few minutes, some
> > military vehicles appeared in the distance around
> > Bambo Nightclub, racing towards Brikama. As the
> > military vehicles approached the gas station at
> > the corner, the man in the center of the group
> > turned around and without saying a word, bolted
> > and ran inside the twin storey compound leaving a
> > trail of dust behind him. I turned and looked at
> > him disappear hurriedly behind gate of the
> > compound leaving the other people behind. I could
> > not believe what I was seeing. The man was none
> > other than the brave savior, the hero, the
> > sacrificial lamb. The man was Halifa Sallah. I
> > turned around and headed for Fagi-Kunda and
> > towards home. Needless to say, I was very, very
> > disappointed. > >
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