Mr.Saidy, please take a break and relax...are u the defending attorney for
mr secka, whom we all very well understand/understood can fight his own
battle without your misconceived convictions. take a hike mate and
concentrate on what u are paid to do....Take  care of the TV& RADIO PLEASE,
Mr Tombong Jamus Jammeh...
Kiottos
Peter


>From: TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: "Cheyassin Secka" reacts to the "Coms" Wadda issue!
>Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:52:05 PDT
>
>Ebrima Ceesay,
>
>There is nothing in your posting that suggests that the email could have
>come from somebody else other than Pap Cheyassin Secka. Reading your
>posting
>suggests that you actually received the email in question from Pap
>Cheyassin
>Secka. Why didn't you do your own investigation as a journalist before you
>forwarded it to the list? Secondly, the email seems to imply that you have
>some sort of relationship with Pap Cheyassin Secka to the extend that he
>addresses you as "Ebrima" and not Mr. Ceesay. Have you ever received an
>email or any other type of correspondence from Pap Cheyassin Secka since
>his
>appointment as Secretary of State for Justice? The answer is NO. So why
>would you all of a sudden receive an unsolicited email from Pap Cheyassin
>Secka, without investigating and verifying the authenticity of the email?
>All you could have done is call him and find out if he is the author to the
>email. You credibility is at stake here, whether you admit or not. To many
>others, and me this is forgery at best.
>
>I do not have anything personal against you. We defer in our political
>inclination especially regarding the present government, but I will never
>knowingly tarnish your image or call you names. I was just surprise when
>Pap
>Cheyassin said he never sent an email from you. Even if the email was from
>an insider, the fact of the matter is you sent it to this list as one from
>Pap Cheyassin Secka. This very serious!
>
>
>PEACE
>
>TOMBONG
>
>
>
>>From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: "Cheyassin Secka" reacts to the "Coms" Wadda issue!
>>Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:56:39 GMT
>>
>>Tombong Saidy:
>>
>>You see, stop under-estimating the intelligence of the members of the
>>Gambia-L. Believe me, people on the List are not fools! In fact, they are
>>smarter than you can imagine.
>>
>>My brother, you have this habit of dividing the list, or diverting
>>attention, for instance, whenever your monster boss Yaya Jammeh is being
>>mercilessly exposed as a corrupt tyrant on the list.
>>
>>And now, because the current attention on the L is on me, but more
>>importantly, given the fact that some of the comments on the list are very
>>critical of me, you then decided to chip in - to send in an e-mail, saying
>>that Cheyassin Secka told you that he did not write the e-mail I posted to
>>the L - which was signed in his name - so that those on the L who are
>>critical of me can also use your "bait" as a way to do further attacks on
>>me.
>>
>>Tombong Saidy, I sincerely believe that you might have even convinced Pap
>>Cheyassin Secka that now was a very good time to deny writing that e-mail,
>>so that more people on the L, can attack me, or question my integrity.
>>
>>Well, Tombong, I can assure you that the members of L are smarter than
>>you.
>>For three weeks now, the e-mail, purportedly written by "Cheyassin Secka"
>>was on the L, and neither you nor Cheyassin Secka himself denied owning it
>>until now, when I am the subject of attention/controversy on the L.
>>
>>So, Tombong, you have come again to divide the list. By the way, tell me,
>>this time around, who is your "bait" meant for? Who do you want to catch?
>>
>>Tombong Saidy, you can never succeed in tarnishing my integrity, not this
>>time around. Anyway, the good thing is that there are some many computer
>>experts on Gambia L these days; so they can easily track down or trace
>>where
>>the e-mail in question had come from.
>>
>>They may not know who wrote it, but they can easily trace where the e-mail
>>in question, was sent from. And, in fact, if you look at the caption of
>>that
>>e-mail purportedly written by "Cheyassin Secka", I had put Cheyassin's
>>name
>>IN QUOTES: "Cheyassin Secka".
>>
>>And even if you look at the caption of very posting you sent today -
>>reproduced below - and which posting I am now reacting to, you'll see that
>>Cheyassin Secka's name was in fact in quotes: "Cheyassin Secka"
>>
>>So, even assuming that SoS Cheyassin Secka didn't write the e-mail in
>>question, I still haven't committed any wrong journalistically once his
>>name
>>was put in quotes - "Cheyassin Secka". But I suppose you wouldn't know
>>this
>>rule/precept in Journalism, because you are not a trained one. Why not ask
>>Jainaba Nyang or Bora Mboge to lecture you on this one?
>>
>>In conclusion, I call on Momodou Camara, Manjie Nyang, Yusupha Jow, Katim
>>Touray to check the IP number of the e-mail in question, and report to the
>>L
>>where it came from. They may not know who wrote the e-mail in question if
>>the real Cheyassin Secka claimed that he did not write it; but they will
>>surely know where the e-mail was actually sent from. They will, for sure,
>>know the machine from where it was sent from.
>>
>>And, Gambia-L, given the content of the e-mail in question - and also
>>having
>>regard to its explicit nature - I am convinced that it indeed came from
>>Cheyassin himself or an insider in the Ministry of Justice.
>>
>>Saul Khan: I saw your comments on the Ebou Taal saga, but I believe you
>>missed the point. I reacted to Mambuna Bojang on the grounds of
>>principles.
>>Sal Taal sent me a private e-mail and asked me, in the name of
>>"transparency", to forward it to the L. He also wrote clearly that he was
>>"awaiting" my reply.
>>
>>Now, Saul Khan, consider this: Salieu Taal's castigating e-mail was on the
>>L
>>for two days, but neither you nor Mambuna Bojang wrote anything to the
>>effect that Sal's e-mail shouldn't have been sent to the L. I am sure a
>>few
>>members of the L were in fact happy that I was being attacked in that
>>manner.
>>
>>Now, when it was my turn to reply Salieu, I was now being told by Mambuna
>>that I should have sent my e-mail to Sal privately. What is the
>>justification here? Why didn't you or Mambuna come out and object when Sal
>>or his sister sent in their e-mails?
>>
>>You read both Sal's and Fatou Taal's insulting e-mails without saying
>>nothing for two days at least, but when it was my legal right to reply,
>>you
>>and Mambuna came out to lecture me on the laws of privacy. Don't get me
>>wrong: I believe the two of you had a valid point to make, but I am
>>questioning the timing your postings came. And postings were addressed to
>>me
>>alone, none was addressed to Sal or his sister
>>
>>Frankly, if Mambuna, or you, wrote your observation immediately after
>>Sal's
>>or Fatou's e-mails were posted to the L, then I could have understood. But
>>you kept quiet for two days until when I replied and now you want to
>>lecture
>>me on the laws of privacy. Where is the fairness here? You see my point?
>>Anyway, I hope we can now move on and join efforts/hands to try and unseat
>>the dictator in Kanilai.
>>
>>Mambuna Bojang, my apologies to you nonetheless if you found my earlier
>>comments offensive. As I always say, The Gambia is a small society and we
>>are all one big family. So we must demand to live in continued peace and
>>harmony. I was in fact "surprised" last night when someone called me from
>>London to say that you are Amie Bojang-Sissoho's brother.
>>
>>Well, Amie was a colleague and a good sister for that matter. In fact,
>>very
>>recently, I went to visit her when she came from Southampton, UK, to spend
>>a
>>weekend at Ndey Jobarteh's flat. So I'll call ask her later this afternoon
>>and ask her to make peace between the two of us. (laugh)
>>
>>Ebrima Ceesay
>>Birmingham, UK.
>>
>>
>>>From: TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: Re: "Cheyassin Secka" reacts to the "Coms" Wadda issue!
>>>Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 02:34:19 PDT
>>>
>>>Ebrima Ceesay,
>>>
>>>You wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>I spoke to Mr. Pap Cheyassin Secka and showed him your email and the
>>>email
>>>you claimed he wrote. The man categorically denied ever writing such an
>>>email. He has been following GAMTEL for sometime now to get him online.
>>>GAMTEL will get him connected this week and has also assigned him an
>>>email
>>>address, which he has not yet used. If the Attorney General denies ever
>>>sending an email, then where does this email come from? How can you claim
>>>that the email was written by Pap Cheyassin Secka and addressed to you?
>>>The
>>>email address
>>>q [log in to unmask] does not belong to Pap Cheyassin Secka or is this from
>>>any
>>>imaginary Pap Cheyassin Secka just as your sources are imaginary? This is
>>>a
>>>serious crime, especially as a journalist. This is not impersonation, but
>>>forgery at best.
>>>
>>>Credibility is the most important quality for a journalist to have.
>>>
>>>
>>>PEACE
>>>
>>>TOMBONG
>>>
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