Sister Jabou,
You know what worries me here is the fact you don't understand either what I am saying or you just wanted to be as you always are. How can I explain myself and stance to someone who want to be difficult even if not necessarily required. What I am trying to say is the fact that, what benefit will you get from those? You need to build an objectives on how to get jammeh out of power, what means to use toward the objectives, Remember we have to position ourselves firmly to get ready for any kind of battle, and prices to pay will have to be considered, the place (whereby a better segment can be achieved) most not be forgotten and the "products" (which is democracy rule of law etc). how to get to our objective. Should we take a gun or should we hate yahya or should we face our computer and insult them day in and day out. What is your point here? Say and do whatever you feel but your have the head to think as well of the consequence and their side effect not to you personally but to the
people on the ground too. I don't care whatever you say I just want be me NO FEAR FOR A TRUTH OR WHAT I THINK IS JUST, I CAN DEBATE ON IT TILL WILL GET TO OUR STANCE AND MAKE IT BE UNDERSTOOD. NOTHING PERSONAL SISTER.
EDIE
Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Edi,
You seem fixated on this "insult the president" issue. I have come to the
conclusion that for you, expressing my views and calling the APRC regime and
Jammeh what they are, tyrants and dictators is what you call insulting them. I
hope that you will learn how a democracy is supposed to operate one day soon.
Just support those who have the courage and the conviction to fight on behalf of
all Gambians, yourself included and you may both learn and enjoy the benefits
of a true democratic government one day. If you would rather straddle the
fence for self preservation by telling us that you are against the regime but have
spent all your time on this list defending them, then we have seen the likes
of you by the dozens, they are the ones who nurture the subjugators of their
own all over the African continent, but we will still fight on your behalf for
the sake of everyone else.
Now, most importantly, if you are so convinced that what I have been doing is
insignificant and no one is listening to me and Jammeh is all powerful, then
what is your worry Edi? Seems to me that if you really belived that, you need
not spend time debating me on that issue and informing me of this or is this
your startegy of planting this amusing idea of yours into peoples' mind? I
think those likely to pay attention to this infantile campaign of yours are
already worshipping Jammeh so you need not devote any precious time to it because
it is akin to preaching to the choir.
All you need to do is ignore me and my tirades and be secure in your
knowledge that
what I and people like me are doing is insignificant. That's certainly what
I would do if I were you because then what possible harm could I bring into
such a secure situation huh?
Jabou Joh
In a message dated 2/24/04 2:06:14 AM Central Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
>
> Sister Jabou,
> How long have you being shouting and like a government, or any organization,
> the longer on are campaigning for your mission to persuating your target
> groups alway matters hence it is expensive to carter for them. However, you it
> take you long enough to persuade your targets without response, shouldn't you
> check your tracks to see what you are doing wrong or you to continue spending
> time and money in vain? it is that or should I say in your thaughts, one
> have to us power against whatever dismays you? in other word, should I insult
> the president or remain unstrategic to portray my dislike to the regime? I have
> a class now, and most go.
> Edi
>
> Jabou Joh wrote:
>
> No Edi, You did not make the above statement and probably never would. I
> did.
> What is my shouting doing? It is informing the World that we have tyranny at
> home masquerading as a democratic government and killing our people and the
> evidence is there for all to see, and we are just gettign started. Yaya
> Jammeh
> does not under-estimate what our shouting both on and off the net is doing.
> Have you ever seen me insult Yaya Jammeh? I have called him a Tyrant and a
> dictator which he is.
> So you think we should sit and wait for Yaya to be driven out of power by
> Allah? Allah decides all things but he is also against injustice and he
> expects
> us to fight it. Just read your Qur'an my dear.
> You say you do not want Yaya in power, but are you really sure that is your
> position? I am not looking to the U.N or Bush to get rid of Yaya for us,
> that
> is a simplistic view. We, the citizens who are standing up against this
> tyrannical regime will do it, and no amount of lectures from you or anyone
> else
> will stop that.The likes of Jammeh like citizens like you who believe they
> are
> helpless and that government and political leaders are all powerful.
> I do not go home because I am outspoken against this regime and have been
> for
> years now, and they imprison and threatend journalists for simply reporting
> the news as it happens at home.
> I do not go home because this regime just arrested, falsely charged and
> falsely imprisoned a leader of one of the opposition parties for advocating
> that
> the people exercise their rights to demonstrate against the terrible
> conditions
> this regime has brought to bear upon Gambians.
> I do not go home because this regime has dispatched rogues in the middle of
> the night to pour gasoline upon and burn down a radio station and the
> offices
> of a newspaper simply for allowing the people to have a voice.
> I do not go home because this regime has presided over murders and attempted
> murders, the latest being that of an attorney who was defending a case in
> which they were the plaintif, and not a single one of these incidents have
> ever
> been investigated and one has to conclude they have something to hide.
> I do not go home because students demonstrating were ordered shot in cold
> blood in the street like dogs by this regime. The list goes on.
> Finally, I do not go home because I want to stay alive and continue doing
> what I and others are doing until thsi regime vacates our seat of
> government.
> Have you been sent to entice people into going home so the tyrants can kill
> us like they are killing innocent Gambians?
> Who is listening to me you ask? Gambians who know they have rights and their
> efforts can make a difference and they have a responsibility to stand up for
> their rights, and our numbers are growing. Justice loving people all over
> the
> World who abhor tyranny and dictatorships. Yaya Jammeh is listening to us
> also
> Edi because he knows that what we are doing or saying is not insignificant.
> It
> has contributed to bringing other dictators who thought they would be in
> power for ever, and they are now squirming before the people, and it will
> contribute to bring thsi dictatorship down too.
> People like you who attack those like me for standing up against injustice
> are also listening to me and know what my shouting can accomplish otherwise
> why
> would you work so hard to try to stop us?
>
> Jabou Joh
>
> In a message dated 2/23/04 10:50:49 AM Central Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
> >
> >
>
>
> >
> > HAVE I SAID THE ABOVED MENTIONED? OR IS IT THAT YOU ARE JUST THE SAME
> PERSON
> > AS USUAL BY JUMPING UNTO CONCLUTION. BY THE WAY, NO ONE IS UNDERLYING ANY
> > POSSIBLE ACTION THIS REGIME MIGHT DO, WHAT i AM TRYING TO SAY IS THE FACT
> THAT
> > IF YOUR ENEMY IS STANDING BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR PROGRESS AND MOREOVER MORE
> > POWERFUL THAN YOURSELF, WILL YOU START INSULTING HIM OR PUSHING HIM OUT OF
> YOUR
> > WAY OR WILL YOU TAKE A SIDE LINE TO PAVE THE WAY ACROSS HIM? YOU KNOW FOR
> > CERTAIN USING YOUR POWER WILL BE DEMINISH AND INSULTING HIM WILL KEEP HIM
> > STADING ON YOUR WAY. WHAT WILL YOU DO JABOU?
> >
> > IF THEY ARE BAD, WHEN WAS YOUR LAST TIME IN THE GAMBIA? WHY IS SISTER NDEY
> > VISITING WITHOUT FEAR? WHAT PROGRESS HAVE YOU MADE BY SOUTING ON THE NET?
> WHO
> > IS LISTENING TO YOU? WHAT REPONSE DO YOU GET FROM THE UN CONCERNING YOUR
> > WORRIES? HOW ABOUT FROM BUSH?
> >
> > HEY IT IS ONLY GOD WHO CAN HELP GAMBIANS, HE GIVE US YAHYA AND WHENEVER
> HIS
> > TIME COMES HE'LL LIVE WITHOUT DOUBT. I DO NOT WANT YAHYA TO CONTINUE AS
> THE
> > PRESIDENT YET I BELIEVE IN GOD AND KNOW THE FACT THAT HE IS THE ONLY ONE
> WHO
> > CAN SAVE THE GAMBIA HE WISHES. SAYING I PRAY AND PREACHES DOES NOT MAKE
> ONE A
> > MUSLIM BUT THE INTENTION AND ATTITUDES TOWARD CREATION.
> >
> > AS YOU SAID YOU ARE A BUSINESS WOMAN, YOU CREATE A BUSINESS, WOULDN'T YOU
> > PREVENT YOUR BUSINESS FROM BANKRUPTING? THEREFORE, GOD WILL ALWAYS PROTECT
> HIS
> > CREATION FROM BANKRUPTING AND NO ONE HAS THE POWER BUT HIM TO DISTROY THE
> > PROUDS AMONG HIS BESTOWEE. THEREFORE AGAIN GOD'S TIME IS THE BEST.
> > EDIE
> >
> > If they
> > are bad, well, that is what the people are experiencing and that is the
> > APRC
> > record.
> > I also think you are wrong that they did not listen to the program.
> > This si a
> > tyranny, remember?
> >
> >
> > Jabou Joh wrote:
> > In a message dated 2/23/04 8:20:33 AM Central Standard Time,
> > [log in to unmask] writes:
> >
> >
> > > You can even get Yahya on the line if only you are strategical from the
> > > beginning. Go over to your postings and see your comments.
> > >
> > > I am not saying Yahya is perfect, but hearing the fact that you are
> > getting
> > > excited to seeing anyone coming with a bad remark on him personally will
> > > deter him from listening or responding to your calls,
> >
> > Dom't you mean that Yaya and his supporters did not come on the program
> > because they could not defend all the documented atrocities they have
> > committed and
> > which were being discussed, and which they know to be true? We are simply
> > stating what is happening in The Gambia brother, we are not making it up.
> If
> > they
> > are bad, well, that is what the people are experiencing and that is the
> APRC
> > record.
> > I also think you are wrong that they did not listen to the program. This
> si
> > a
> > tyranny, remember?
> > If you want to come on the program next time and paint a good picture of
> the
> > regime, feel free to do so.
> >
> > Jabou Joh
> >
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