Mr. Ceesay,
      Mr Mambuna is right.  You should reply to private sent mails
privately.  I don't blame Sal and his sister for reacting the way they did.
Is there anyone in this L or anyone for that matter who would not react the
same way if their parents are shamelessly written about?  You should not
have attacked Sal the way you did here. I thought you said you have put this
topic to rest.
       By the way the other day one of your sources sent you a mail joking
about APRC having no money in their coffers and that Tombong should look for
funds to show European Soccer games on Gambian TV.  This is not a laughing
matter.  People are suffering in The Gambia.  Students just got massacred,
some are injured and still in hospital.  Ebrima, you know about the
situation in Gambia more than any of us and you and your sources are more
concerned about soccer games.
     Please Mr Ceesay concentrate on the good job you are doing for all of
us, exposing the bad guys and not get into stuff that would shatter all that
good job.
                                    Alfusainey Bah



>From: Mambuna
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>Subject: Re: Another Ebou Taal's son reacts!
>Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 09:35:54 -0400
>
>Mr. Ceesay,
>
>With all due respect, I don't think you should have sent this "personal
>attack"
>on the list. Salieu Taal wrote to you in private, and please next time
>respond
>to private mails privately. If you have a beef with Salieu or vise visa,
>most of
>us are not interested in it. While I do agree with many that you are doing
>a
>great job for disseminating insightful info. to this very list, I think you
>sometimes take things out of context. Both Fatou and Salieu Taal have
>reasons to
>attack you about their father - who on this list won't if you were in their
>shoes? They did it wisely in private and its amazing how you can turn that
>around and expose their past on the "Bantaba". Its just ridiculous.
>
>By the way, I don't know any of the Taal family. I am just concern about
>this
>type of unwarranted personal attacks. It happens time and again on this
>list,
>and we have to be mindful. What goes around comes around.
>
>God Speed!
>
>Pa Mambuna
>
>
>Ebrima Ceesay wrote:
>
> > Salieu Taal:
> >
> > Before I attempt to shatter your baseless allegations into pieces, I
>must
> > warn you now, that if this is the kind of shallow analysis, or flimsy
> > writing you are going to be rendering us, especially with all the
> > credentials added to your name, I'll have no choice except to ask
>Buckingham
> > University to revoke the Law Degree conferred on you forthwith. And I
>mean
> > it!
> >
> > Believe me, Sal, next time you send me this sort of woolly, quibble and
> > muddled writing, I'll send a copy of it to Buckingham and ask them
>whether
> > this is the sort of narrow and smattering analysis/writing they are
>teaching
> > their students.
> >
> > I'll make it clear to the Rector at Buckingham University that if they
>do
> > not want their reputation as one of the leading Universities in England
>to
> > be tarnished, then they must ask you, Salieu, to go back to school and
>do
> > some serious reading!!
> >
> > Honestly, Salieu, being an alumnus of Buck - a very expensive private
> > University for that matter - but, more significantly, given all the
> > credentials/titles ( LLB; MA ) attached to your name, I had expected you
>to
> > come up with something mature, tangible, ungarbled and well-thought-out!
> >
> > But just like your Sister's trash the other day, yours too was childish
>-
> > very immature to say the least - empty and, of course, full of
>distortions.
> > What a shame! Sal, believe me, with all your bluff, I swear I CAN put
>you in
> > a classroom and teach you - having regard to the trash you just sent me.
> >
> > How can a lawyer, or someone with a Law Degree like you, deliberately
>tell
> > lies or distort the facts? Who told you that I was the one who wrote the
> > Story about your Dad in the Daily Observer? Even your punk sister, Fatou
> > Taal, did know that "Alieu Badara Sowe had written the story" in
>question,
> > except that she, Fatou, had lied that I had asked Alieu Badara Sowe to
>write
> > the story.
> >
> > Anyway, let me now move to the issue. Salieu, among other things, you
> > wrote..."Ebrima, I am shocked by your unwarranted and unsubstantiated
>attack
> > on my father...You ought not write any story on the basis of hearsay or
> > undisclosed sources... My father never came to the UK neither was he
> > declared Persona Non Grata...Your report was factually unsound and
>inspired
> > by spite"...
> >
> > Sal, these cited quotations from your e-mail, are very misleading and
> > unfounded to say the least - wrongly insinuating that I wrote the Daily
> > Observer story - and in fact if you do not withdraw them forthwith, I'll
> > write a pamphlet on your mediocrity and expose to the whole world, what
>a
> > man of straw you are!!!
> >
> > Let me now put things in perspective for you, in order to set the record
> > straight, but also to expose you as a buffoon and a crank!
> >
> > ** The first point to note, Salieu, is that the story on your Dad, or in
> > question, was written by Alieu Badara Sowe, who is an assistant editor
>at
> > the Observer and it was the very Observer he works for that carried the
> > article.
> >
> > ** Question: How did I get into this whole saga?
> >
> > ** Now, Salieu, read this very carefully: One of my sources in Banjul
>sent
> > me an e-mail, where he had said that his Secretary had phoned his mobile
> > when he was at a meeting in Yundum, and told him that one of the
>newspapers
> > had a headline, saying that "Ebou Taal was declared Persona non Grata by
>the
> > UK government."
> >
> > ** And later on, when my source finally got copies of his newspapers, he
> > sent me another e-mail - which I forwarded to the L - disclosing, first
>of
> > all, that it was the Observer that reported the Ebou Taal story, adding
>also
> > that according to the article, Ebou Taal apparently travelled to London,
>but
> > was given 48 hours to leave the UK.
> >
> > ** Subsequently, the Daily Observer realised that the story was
>unfounded
> > and, as a result, they retracted it with an unreservedly written apology
>to
> > your Dad.
> >
> > ** And, needles to say, in keeping with the ethics of good journalism,
> > Tombong Saidy - and later on my very self - forwarded the retraction in
>the
> > Daily Observer, to the L, except that in my own posting to the L, I made
>a
> > comment/observation to the effect, that it was "untrue" for the
>Government
> > to have said, through the Daily Observer, that your Dad was "never
>convicted
> > for embezzlement." Because the record shows that your Dad was indeed
> > convicted for embezzlement!
> >
> > So, Sal, where did I go wrong? Or better yet, who told you, or where on
> > earth did they say that I wrote the article in question? Yes, the person
>who
> > authored the story about your Dad, Alieu Badara Sowe, just like you, is
> > someone I know very well, but if he had contacted me before hand, he
> > wouldn't have written such a wrong and hasty story.
> >
> > I would have given him all the facts he needed to know regarding the
> > decision by Yaya Jammeh to appoint/nominate your Dad as Gambia's
> > ambassador-designate to the UK and, more significantly, the disapproval
>of
> > your Dad's nomination by the UK government.
> >
> > But, the truth of the matter, Salieu, is that I have not been in any
>form of
> > contact with the Daily Observer since Kenneth Best sold it to Amadou
>Samba
> > over a year ago. And, in fact, the last time I spoke with Alieu Badara
>Sowe
> > was in the Gambia in 1996!
> >
> > So, Salieu, where is the evidence that I wrote the article on your Dad?
> > You've really let me down academically/intellectually! Sincerely
>speaking, I
> > had thought that you were better than this - on the whole you are
>nothing
> > but a lightweight, a froth, a pipsqueak!!
> >
> > And, surprisingly, at your level, you do not even write English well,
>your
> > grammar was disappointing to say the least! Boy, if I was lucky - many
>years
> > ago - to have the African Development Bank pay for my University
>Education,
> > as they did for you all these years, believe me, I could have been one
>of
> > your lecturers at Buck!
> >
> > You call me "half-baked." Me! In fact, Susan Rowe on Gambia L, who
>trains
> > teachers at Reading University, and who also wrote about 5 books, had to
> > laugh at your claims - the whole of yesterday - that I, Ebrima Ceesay,
>have
> > "half-baked, haphazard and dubious educational background"...
> >
> > Well, except something is wrong with Susan Rowe (Laugh) but anyway it
>was
> > consoling to hear an independent person, an outsider like Susan Rowe,
> > acknowledge that my writings, especially my English, are "impeccable"
>unlike
> > yours!
> >
> > And, by the way, even today your "half-baked" Journalist was invited in
> > Reading to share his limited knowledge with the students there, but he
> > couldn't make it!
> >
> > Well, let some of you continue to call me a "half baked" Journalist. The
> > Prophet Muhammed (SAW), as we all know, was initially rejected by his
>own
> > people, but, subsequently, he carried the day! My day will come!
> >
> > Meanwhile, at least, I can find some comfort in the fact that while
>Salieu
> > Taal is calling me a "half-baked" Journalist, more and more outsiders
>are
> > recognising the potentials in the me and are in fact demanding to work
>with
> > me.
> >
> > Susan Rowe being the latest person, apart from the late John Wiseman, to
>ask
> > the "half-baked journalist" to co-author two books with her; and,
>needless
> > to say, that project will soon start.
> >
> > And again, thanks to Susan Rowe's benevolence, the necessary fund will
>be
> > obtained - through the Joseph Tree Foundation - for me to do my Doctoral
> > thesis this September! Inshallah!
> >
> > May be, if I have the title of "Dr" added to my name, then people like
> > Salieu Taal, who has this mentality that ONLY Ph.D holders are
>academically
> > good, will soon give me the respect I deserve! (laugh!)
> >
> > Ebrima Ceesay
> > Birmingham, UK
> >
> > PS: Gambia-L: It always pays to be humble/modest, but when people keep
> > pushing you against the world, one is obliged to be act immodestly!
> >
> > Dr Janneh: Thanks for clarification on the Omar Bongo/Jammeh e-mail my
> > source sent me yesterday!
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