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thanks yero.Those are the tip of the ice bag .they have many other things that their members at the fringes don't know ,but when you get deep in their affairs then they open up to you and by that time it is normally too late to get out .i attended three conferences in London one by the ahamadiyas and two by those working to expose them.
  it is indeed true that they help their registered members in every academic pursuit .they can find convenient scholarships,funding,and all sorts of support .the registered member later pay back by means of donations or other kindness to members.
   
  the feeling of responsibility to the movement or organisation trap many inside who later discover the truth about them.
  they operate similar to that of some so-call fundamentalist groups .they interpret Islam according to their narrow understanding and then trap a few gullible vulnerable individuals and then brain wash them ,then use them to do misguided things in the name of Islam.
   
  is am is about real knowledge and harmony .every situation have its mode of solving according the Quran and sunnah .yet ,people prefer the ideas of so-call leaders who them self are control by anti-islamic elements .we need to learn our religion a bit .the ahamadiya are failing even in England where they are funded by the government to spread across the under-developed world .new Muslims know about them more we born Muslims.
  may Allah guide us all .amen.

Y Jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
  




How dare?
1. The Ahmadis believe there is a prophet after Nabi Muhammad-PBUH, namely ‘Ghulam”2. The Ahmadis don’t believe in the fitnatul-dhazal/the anis Christ3. The Ahmadis don’t believe in the coming of the Mahdi (Imam of the rightful prophets.)4. They have controversial views about the rise and coming back of Esa ibn Mariam (Jesus)-PBUH5. They don’t even pray behind other Muslims other than an Ahmadis.



The name “Ahmadi” and “Ahmadians” are serious misnomers. Islam is not like other religions where they are named after their founders, for e.g. Christianity after Christ; Buddhism after Buddha; Judaism after Judah et cetera. Verily the name of our true religion is Islam, and those that practice it Muslims. The best grip is the Quran and the Sunnah. The Quran-words of Allah/God SWT. The Sunnah-way of life of the prophet-PBUH. 
The fear is these Ahmadis might translate the Quran to suite their personal agenda, in addition to distorting some of the verses. Then, it becomes truly unacceptable. Since it was accepted that Islamic activities must be approved by the SIC, their move to publish it without consent to the SIC violates that agreement. 
Of course, there is greater need for tolerance and acceptance of the tolerable and acceptable. Obviously a verse goes “There is no compulsion in religion.” /Quran. In Quranic chapter 109, it ended by saying “To you belong your religion, and ours belong to us.” But if the Ahmadis’ efforts are to pollute the minds of the people by intentionally distorting the verses, it is a need for scholars to tighten their belts and battle their unacceptable deeds. 
It remains to be seen their long battle with vocal Oustars Bunjeng continues many years after his death. 


We seek refuge in God from the rejected Satan and his many accomplices. We ask God for true guidance. We ask God to show us the righteous path and protect us from every evil omen, trial and difficulty. Whatever is good for our souls as Allah willeth in this world and the hereafter, so be it. O Allah, do not take our souls except in a state of pure Islam and make us die as believers. O Allah, do not return us to disbelief after guidance and do not test us with a burden greater than we can bear.
Ya AllahYa SamadYa KarimYa rabanaYa ghafurYa Dhulzalal Ya RahmanYa RaheemYa MalikThe best names belong to you, O Allah. > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 09:54:54 -0600> From: [log in to unmask]> Subject: The Ahmadis/rejoinder> To: [log in to unmask]> > By YJ> > > How dare?> 1. The Ahmadis believe there is a prophet after Nabi Muhammad-PBUH, namely ‘Ghulam”2. The Ahmadis don’t believe in the fitnatul-dhazal/the anis Christ3. The Ahmadis don’t believe in the coming of the Mahdi (Imam of the rightful prophets.)4. They have controversial views about the rise and coming back of Esa ibn Mariam (Jesus)-PBUH5. They don’t even pray behind other Muslims other than an Ahmadis.> The name “Ahmadi” and “Ahmadians” are serious misnomers. Islam is not like other religions where they are named after their founders, for e.g. Christianity after Christ; Buddhism after Buddha; Judaism after Judah et cetera. Verily the name of our true religion is Islam, and those that practice it Muslims. The
 best grip is the Quran and the Sunnah. The Quran-words of Allah/God SWT. The Sunnah-way of life of the prophet-PBUH. > The fear is these Ahmadis might translate the Quran to suite their personal agenda, in addition to distorting some of the verses. Then, it becomes truly unacceptable. Since it was accepted that Islamic activities must be approved by the SIC, their move to publish it without consent to the SIC violates that agreement. > Of course, there is greater need for tolerance and acceptance of the tolerable and acceptable. Obviously a verse goes “There is no compulsion in religion.” /Quran. In Quranic chapter 109, it ended by saying “To you belong your religion, and ours belong to us.” But if the Ahmadis’ efforts are to pollute the minds of the people by intentionally distorting the verses, it is a need for scholars to tighten their belts and battle their unacceptable deeds. > It remains to be seen their long battle with vocal Oustars Bunjeng continues many years
 after his death. > We seek refuge in God from the rejected Satan and his many accomplices. We ask God for true guidance. We ask God to show us the righteous path and protect us from every evil omen, trial and difficulty. Whatever is good for our souls as Allah willeth in this world and the hereafter, so be it. O Allah, do not take our souls except in a state of pure Islam and make die as believers. O Allah, do not return us to disbelief after guidance and do test us with a burden greater than we can bear.> Ya AllahYa SamadYa KarimYa rabanaYa ghafurYa Dhulzalal Ya RahmanYa RaheemYa MalikThe best names belong to you, O Allah. Amen. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________> Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™.> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_MediaCtr_bigscreen_102007> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤> To unsubscribe/subscribe or view
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