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Oko Drammeh <[log in to unmask]>
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Joe, Now you can view the the photos of Oko and Yaya Jammeh that Badou
Jobe of Ifangbondi and his wife were reporting to the list and HIS wife
wrote . This subject is not inspiring . She will not get tired. She has
nothing to Lose.
Oko Drammeh

Joe Sambou wrote:

> Oko, like I said before, this is not personal and it has all to do
> with the
> Gambian condition, thus this exchange. When I chronicled your
> activities on
> the list after your Gambia visit and noted that you eulogized Ngagga,
> reflected on Afdie, and the infamous unveiling of the mass grave
> facade by
> Baala J, it was to highlight your deliberate attempt to not tell us
> anything
> about the suffering of the people. I made that observation because it is
> not in line with your proactive voice. I can understand and I expected
> you
> to eulogize Ngagga and that is not why I mentioned it and you know that.
> The Afdie bit, it is within your right to dwell on and others were
> interested in it. The mass grave bit was a pitch for Baala and the APRC.
> However, nothing was said about the Gambian condition. Sidi had to also
> tell us about your promotion. And so, it was obvious that you never cared
> to discuss anything that would contradict the Jammeh facade.
>
> I think you are mistaken to say that I complemented you on your
> appointment
> and you can check the archives. As a brother I wanted to, but like all
> that
> associated with Jammeh in the hope of working for the country, from Che
> Yassin (opportunist), Sidat, et al, to my good friend TJ
> (opportunist), you
> have to play the music according to Yaya. Thus, I wished that you were
> not
> involved with a tainted material like Yaya, but you have a right to free
> association, even with a murderer.
>
> As to the site that Badou referenced, I had said that I was unable to
> access
> the site but if Badou's assertions are represented by those pictures,
> then
> Gambians deserved every bit they got from you. Yes, I concur with you
> that
> in a group, you may not know what each is made of and I hope you make
> it a
> priority that such characters stay out of our country and that child
> molester and other criminals will not return with that group. Regarding
> prostitution and the image our country has in the eyes of outsiders, I
> think
> you are grossly underestimating the image we project outside, in dope
> dealing and prostitution. I know it is not good form to discuss these
> topics in our society, for many a families depend on these gains, but we
> have to discuss them as a nation. We cannot continue to blame foreigners
> for our sisters and brothers are deeply involved. Same with pedophilia.
>
> As to your political stance, I do not doubt that you are progressive,
> in my
> opinion. Having said that, I am finding it hard to reconcile your new
> partnership with Yaya with your proactive voice. Dictators from Amin to
> Sadam to Yaya have one main thing in common - they use anyone that stands
> next to them, even their own blood. Oko, the only way you can exist in
> the
> Jammeh circle is to do like all else around him do on a daily basis -
> debase
> yourself and submit your dignity. You can say that is my opinion,
> however,
> there is evidence to support my assertions. Look no further than Joe Joof
> and the crooks in Yanks et all in a long company of the disgraced.
> Yaya is
> a murderer, liar, and a thief and anyone close to him is game. Given our
> condition as a nation, we cannot afford not to be straight with each
> other.
> All in the pursuit of a better Gambia.
>
> Chi Jaama
>
> Joe Sambou
>
>
>> From: Oko Drammeh <[log in to unmask]>
>> Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>> <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Cultural Agenda/Joe
>> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 00:41:11 +0100
>>
>> Joe, An answere to your mail :
>>
>> I really do not want to make personal answeres on important issues,
>> especially to reply tens of mails. . But you personified me to a degree
>> based on your judgement and I am forced to answere you personally.
>> I was thrilled to see the stories that came out of the Story of Half-die
>> Eventhough it was not a complete and accurate one it was not worthless.
>> I wrote a series of stories that I compiled for remembering my youth
>> "Ndongo life" and it spreaded to some of these memories. I was
>> contributing something different and there were responses.They were
>> educational as I read some of the postings from other contributors. You
>> also complimented me on the appointment. I will do good with it when it
>> last.Trust me.
>>
>> I see also your take on Ndagga . It is hard to have a go no this on one
>> and one with you.We come from different angles. You as a consumer and a
>> record buyer and me as a non-buyer and an inhouse planner ,we have a
>> different opion. We see things differently on a respectable professional
>> level.
>>
>> Lastly, I want you to check my political background and my role as a
>> youth leader in banjul. I have been a contributing member of every
>> progressive political organisation in The Gambia in my time, upfront and
>> consciously out spoken, Your remarks are totally out of character .
>>
>> Oko Drammeh
>>
>>
>> .
>>
>> Joe Sambou wrote:
>>
>>> Badou, thanks for this info. I am not able to access the site you
>>> referenced from work but relying on your assertions, I say we deserve
>>> every
>>> bit of what we got from Oko, if those pictures support your assertions.
>>> Unless we stop dealing with fluff, or buddying up, or cuddling the
>>> dishonest
>>> because one is a friend, relative, or roaming buddy, we shall
>>> forever be
>>> vulnerable to snake oil salespersons. When Oko came from Gambia, he
>>> said
>>> zilch about the suffering of our people but started by eulogizing
>>> Ngagga,
>>> which is fine and normal. Then he proceeded to distract us with the
>>> Afdie
>>> bit, not telling us that he was appointed the "Cultural Ambassador" of
>>> the
>>> Gambia. He crowned his act by telling us about the "Mass Grave
>>> Monument"
>>> that Baala J (another snake oil salesman) was unveiling. It was Sidi
>>> Sanneh
>>> who broke the news to us that Oko was appointed the "Cultural
>>> Ambassador".
>>> Unless one is in denial, it was evident that Oko was a mouth piece for
>>> Yaya,
>>> but he had his backers amongst us. He had been distracting us about the
>>> First Republic for the longest and saying zilch about the countless
>>> murders
>>> and thuggry of the APRC. Anytime someone said something about the April
>>> Massacre, he flew from no where to remind us about the 1981
>>> lawlessness.
>>> Folks, we need to tell each other the truth.
>>>
>>> When the news broke about prostitution and Gambia being the sex
>>> haven for
>>> tourists/pedophiles, he came swinging and drowning out anyone that was
>>> willing to explore the validity of those assertions. Yet, he told us
>>> he was
>>> not involved in politics. Who was he kidding? Who among the likes of
>>> OKo
>>> that cuddle up with Yaya that Yaya has not used, from Che Yassin
>>> Secka to
>>> Tijan Ceesay? None. Folks, we scream about Yaya surrounding himself
>>> with
>>> Jolas, however, a closer look reveals that there is also a very very
>>> thick
>>> layer of Banjulians around him and we can do the math for the
>>> willing. We
>>> have taken greed to new heights. Going back to his "Mad Dog"
>>> reference of
>>> malcolm X, may be this will give him an opportunity to kill both the
>>> Mad Dog
>>> and its owner. Just pathetic.
>>>
>>> Chi Jaama
>>>
>>> Joe Sambou
>>>
>>> Chi Jaama
>>>
>>> Joe Sambou
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Badou Jobe <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Cultural Agenda
>>>> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 06:54:47 -0500
>>>>
>>>> The many ardent admirers and fans of The Gambia's newly appointed
>>>> Cultural
>>>> Ambassador will be thrilled to see the content of the following link:
>>>>
>>>> www.africanmusicfestival.com/okodrammeh/custom%20images/gambia/gambia.htm.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The featured pictures provide a true and rare document of the new
>>>> ambassador's contribution to Gambian culture, in the same time
>>>> offering a
>>>> sneak preview of his agenda how to boost Cultural tourism in the
>>>> country,
>>>> as
>>>> promised in his postings to the Gambia-Post/Gambia-L.
>>>>
>>>> "De Buddy's" are a Dutch boys choir who - through mr. Oko Drammeh's
>>>> excellent connections and good offices - got invited to highlight the
>>>> 22nd
>>>> of July celebrations last year.
>>>>
>>>> De Buddy's are led by mr. Drammeh’s associate Ton Buitinga, a
>>>> hard-core
>>>> child pornographer who got arrested after the Gambian tour, but
>>>> should be
>>>> back on the job before the summer, as the boys crew are scheduled to
>>>> visit
>>>> The Gambia again.
>>>>
>>>> Noteworthy are the pics featuring:
>>>> [PICTURE] The president of Gambia, Yahya Jammeh, meets son of Oko,
>>>> Matarr
>>>> [PICTURE] Oko drammeh addresses the presidential celebrations, on
>>>> july 22nd
>>>> 2003
>>>> [PICTURE] The national assembly leader Hon. Baba Jobe with Oko and the
>>>> buddy's
>>>> [PICTURE] The national assembly leader Hon. Baba Jobe with Oko and the
>>>> buddy's
>>>> [PICTURE] Ton buitinga, musical conductor of the buddy's, and Oko
>>>> [PICTURE] The president of the Gambia welcomes Oko
>>>> [PICTURE] The president of the Gambia honours Oko in Banjul
>>>> [PICTURE] De Buddy's with the president of the Gambia and his wife,
>>>> Mr. and
>>>> Mrs. Yahya Jammeh
>>>> [PICTURE] De Buddy's with the president of the Gambia and his wife,
>>>> Mr. and
>>>> Mrs. Yahya Jammeh
>>>> [PICTURE] De Buddy's and the NAPSA students of the Gambia (the
>>>> national
>>>> patriotic students' association - formed 10 august 2001)
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile the world is awaiting mr. Drammeh’s next extravaganza:
>>>> Stokeley
>>>> Carmichael’s widow performing in Kanilai, the bespoke venue for the
>>>> IRF.
>>>>
>>>> Badou Jobe
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [e-mail posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering]
>>>>
>>>> * Subject: Re: [>-<] FWD: Oko Drammeh is IRF New Cultural Ambassador
>>>> * From: Oko Drammeh <okob@xxxx
>>>> * Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 16:17:59 +0100
>>>>
>>>> (...)
>>>> CULTURAL AMBASSADOR
>>>> Â Thank you for your word up!. I want to bring festivals and music
>>>> business
>>>> executives to the Gambia and to make the world to visits the Gambia
>>>> always
>>>> for extravaganga and cultural Events.
>>>> I want to change some of the filty habits of tourism.
>>>>
>>>> I want to share my skills to the Gambian youths and talents. I want to
>>>> bring
>>>> back live music and festivals in the Gambia and to controll the
>>>> flow of
>>>> cultural domination by anyone. I will have regular Seneambian shows in
>>>> Dakar
>>>> in the stadiums and at Sorano and in Banjul.
>>>>
>>>> I have an agenda and friends in the business and a team.
>>>> (...)
>>>> I am introducing Cultural tourism I am doing this because Gambia
>>>> can't
>>>> find her way in the music and art world and each year it is getting
>>>> worst.
>>>> So I decided to go and live in the Gambia for few years to get my
>>>> hand on
>>>> tthe nitty gritty.
>>>>
>>>> I will not be involvrd in politics, I know poly tricks, I am only
>>>> doing a
>>>> job for the people. Politicians come and go but The atrists is
>>>> eternal so I
>>>> know .
>>>> Thank you, I will give support to our youth and they all make money
>>>> and
>>>> improve their art and their lives.
>>>>
>>>> PROMISE
>>>> your brother
>>>> Oko Drammeh
>>>>
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