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Bubacarr Sankanu <[log in to unmask]>
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Dear Mr. Darboe,

I am grateful for the warm reception.

I am not above criticism and I made this very clear in my piece: people are free to challenge or correct me in a mature manner.

Abdul Karim Sanneh, calling me a liar is just unfortunate and thanks for that compliment.

You are Sannneh and possibly a Nyancho and I understand your anger when I said that the Nyancho warriors ignored the advice of the African Gods. You can call me a liar but this historical fact is indelible and thinking about it makes you angry.

To continue with Mr. Darboe, for sure the Mandinkos are not the only ones addicted to Islam. The problem is I studied Yahya Jammeh's "divide and rule policy" and it affected the Mandinkos the most.

I also mentioned Jammeh's misuse of his own Jola people and the Jola justice awaiting him.


Yahya Jammeh was able to misbehave in the last 16 years partly because the Mandikos allowed it. This is my observation. If at all Mandinkos acted the moment Jammeh started insulting them, he would not have continued. But he would insult the Mandinkos and the only reaction I saw from the Mandikos was virtually non.


Ethnic trauma is not an exclusive Mandikno thing. I made reference to the African-American trauma and to our own Sarahule trauma.

Many Africans were forced to accept Islam and Christianity against their will. Only a few had the change to resist the jihads (e.g. the Dogons of Mali, the Hausa Magunzawa of Northern Nigeria and others).


I made reference to other Gambian ethnic groups who filtered/localized Islam by dropping the extreme doctrines: the Fula Allah Jabi Jabani, the Wolofs and their Mouride Brotherhood, the Tuculuer and Tijaniyaa, the Serere's respect for their pre-Islamic values.



My global point is that Africa after 50 years of independence, it is time to intensively review all foreign ideologies that are arresting Africa' development. Africans love jumping into any novelty that comes from abroad without filtering it to suit their values. They easily follow false prophets.

The biggest victims of the African Jihadists like Outhman Dan Fodio and others were Africans who were forced to denounce their faiths. The present day Northern Nigerian home region of Dan Fodio's origin is the least developed part of Nigeria even in African standards. Even though they jumped into the Sharia bandwagons in 1990/2000, their situation is still miserable as most of them believe Allah will come down to literarily take them out of poverty. The kill industry, enterprise and spend their time forcing people to just pray and wait for God.


I am not against organized religion. I am just against the misuse of religion to suppress and arrest human creativity.

President Obama said the future of Africa lies in the hands of Africans. The solutions to Africa' problems cannot be found in Saudi Arabia, Iran, UK, USA and so on. No matter how much China, USA, UK & Co. love Africa, they would not like Africa to compete them on the global stage. They would like Africa to develop not according to African but according to their own geo-strategic interests.

FILTERING and RE-DISCOVERING the best practices of our pre-Islamic and pre-Christian values are inevitable.

Chairman Mao of China wanted to make China a Communist country but the project was a disaster as Communism is not part of the Chinese Culture. The Chinese are capitalists and they were key players of the old globalization through the ancient SILK ROUTES that connected Eurasia.

Mo's successor DEN XIAOPING filtered Communism and integrated the ancient Chinese values of entrepreneurship and global trade into his development plan. The result we are seeing to day.

This is basically what I am trying to highlight.  Madinkos built empires just like us Sarahules and all other ethnic groups of The Gambia: we can all combine our rich heritages to build a successful Gambian Secular Republic. But first we need to do internal self-criticism before we can come up with a common agenda.

If the Mandinkos can build great Empires of Mali and Kaabu, they can help make the Gambia a Great Nation when they integrate their good old but progressive nation building skills into our national development plan.

There is no International Law that says all countries must develop according to the Westminster style of governance. Each country must find its own system that respect local progressive values, the RULE OF LAW and CIVL LIBERTIES.


Anyway, I apologize to all those who were disturbed by my unconventional but unavoidable though-provoking piece.

Warmest,

Prince B.A. Sankanu
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> Datum: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 20:40:06 +0000
> Von: Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
> An: [log in to unmask]
> Betreff: Re: Laye and JDAM, Please subscribe my knucklehead cousin Sankanu to Ellen.

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> Prince B.A. Sankanu
>  
> Welcome to the L (Ellen to your Uncle). You appear to be the first royalty
> to openly associate with our community, and for that, I am ecstatic,
> the regrettable "death threats" ostensibly directed at you notwithstanding.
>  
> On your "current topic", I suppose that is in reference to "Healing the
> Mandinkos from the brutal Islamization trauma; Rediscovering our African
> Native Religions"
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>  
> Leaving aside the substance of your thoughts, I would be grateful for some
> insight to the driving considerations behind your topic itself.
>  
> And here is why!
>  
> Our native homeland is both multi-ethnic, and multi-religious. Are
> Madinkos the sole adherents of the Islamic faith in The Gambia?
>  
> Assuming you are right in your unargued postulation that that adherency
> is of such "brutality" it traumatises the Mandinko to this day, do you
> think your suggested "healing" mechanism is of any practical efficacy given
> the deep  interface of current Gambian society with the religions Your
> Royal Highness singled out for condemnation.
>  
> Why is the Mandinko the only tribe that needs "healing" when Islam is
> accepted across ethnicities in The Gambia?
>  
> Welcome to the interactive world of the L, and just in case you are not
> aware, we subject views of even Royals to intensive forensic scrutiny.
>  
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>  
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> LJDarbo
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>  
> From: Bubacarr Sankanu <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 8:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Laye and JDAM, Please subscribe my knucklehead cousin Sankanu
> to Ellen.
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>
> Dear G-List Mangers and Members,
>
> I thank you all for accepting me. I will do my best to respect the terms
> and conditions of your august List.
>
> As for my current topic, it us sad that some people prefer sending me
> death  threats than engaging me in mature discourse.
>
> However, I am not a coward.
>
> Thank once more for accepting me.
>
> Prince B.A. Sankanu
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> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > Datum: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 12:44:06 -0400
> > Von: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
> > An: [log in to unmask]
> > Betreff: Re: Laye and JDAM, Please subscribe my knucklehead cousin
> Sankanu to Ellen.
>
>
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> >
> > Suntou my friend,
> >
> > I couldn't figure out if you were speaking to me or to Prince Sankanu my
> > royal cousin or when you're speaking to either of us. However from my
> > vantage point, I share the following with you:
> >
> > 1. You are absolutely right that Kaabu is not the only place of
> Mandingos
> > neither is it a place solely of Mandingos. It will be interesting for
> > Sankanu and others to learn that Kaabu's demographics spans Sarahulay,
> Diola,
> > Dogon, Fulani, Bambara, Timne, Mende, Hausa, Jollof, and Toucouleur in
> the
> > main. Therefore Sankanu's inordinate view of Kaabu as the Mandinka
> kingdom is
> > flawed at the very least.
> >
> > 2. The bane of Sankanu's article is pride in oneself and one's own. If
> he
> > bears inordinately on the Mandingo ethnicity to get his point across, I
> > advise temperance on his part. For the demarcation between ethnic
> intolerance
> > and conceit become ever-blurry should Sankanu not apologise to Mandingos
> or
> > make ammends.
> >
> > 3. I am not particularly concerned with the religious undertones of
> > Sankanu's global views because those are accurate and inspiring. Islam
> is not my
> > religion and from what I was told by DaarManso, Islam or Christianity is
> > not the religion of my community, prior or present. There are however
> lessons
> > and examples from both the Qur'An and the Bible that all mankind must be
> > proud of and emulate.
> >
> > 4. Voodoo is not a religion. It is industry and there to be chosen by
> the
> > desiring entrepreneur.
> >
> > I therefore encourage my royal cousin Sankanu to make ammends for the
> > perceived sleight and dishonour of the Mandingos as an ethnic group.
> >
> > I also encourage you Suntou to temper your language and genuflections in
> > matters of ethnicity and religion. Allah counsels temperance for the
> Eemaan.
> > Regardless of engagement.
> >
> > Take care my brother and uncle. You are also Sankanu's uncle therefor.
> Let
> > us welcome Sankanu to Ellen with open arms and his prospective value to
> > our community. He will not be immune to improving or sharing his
> knowledge
> > with us here. We must not deny ourselves the privileges of communion.
> >
> > Haruna.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Tue, Sep 7, 2010 11:30 am
> > Subject: Re: Laye and JDAM, Please subscribe my knucklehead cousin
> Sankanu
> > to Ellen.
> >
> >
> > Let him tell the truth to his Clan members first then he can turn his
> > attention else where. If Sankanu thinks he is wild, let him at least be
> genuine
> > about it. Doing fulan kafo is not enough. Your Prince is a complete
> idiot
> > just like the purveyor of his bullshit.
> > He should have remain Emman. He was sending the same email address to
> the
> > online papers and now he is running miles away from Emman. Yeah Emmanuel
> of
> > Soutuma more like. Are you saying Emmanuel was posting things for you in
> > Bantaba, using the email as your contact in Maafanta? Get real. I spoted
> > your duality a long time. So just let it go bro.
> > Let Sankanu try to learn his history first. Kaabu is not where all
> Gambian
> > Mandingos come from. Let him take back his bullshit generalisation.
> > Voodoo is good, yeah, it help Sankanu to get his resident papers in
> > German. I thought German is in Europe. Why not Ghana, the former kingdom
> of the
> > Sarahuleh so Sankanu says.
> > Yahya Jammeh, Idi Amin, Mabuto, Bukasa, and countless of our guys are
> said
> > to use it regularly. And they are Lo and behold, not corrupt.
> > Sankanu/Emman, if you are into Fulan Kafo, good on you. But you see the
> West adopted
> > Christianity and they use it today to maintain their societal values and
> > norms. Now did they say, let us not use the laws of the bible to model
> our
> > society as we know it today. Where did you ran after the GRTS debacle
> Sankanu?
> > No, not to the heart of traditional worship, but miles away from it.
> >
> > All the secular advocate spread across Europe borrow their ideas from
> the
> > thinking Christianity instituted. When you know, it is then you can
> depart.
> > Superstition is what the West has abandon to grow and the Mandingos did
> > the same like all higher human beings.
> > If you want to deny the unity or existence of God, please go ahead. The
> > near non-Existent paganism in the Gambia may open it's windows to you,
> that
> > is if you visit to sell the idea.
> > The Mandingos left Jalang Bato not under duress but because they knew,
> > bowing down to something they made with hand is the pick of ignorance. A
> thing
> > that one makes, then you held that to be a Deity, does that make sense
> > Sankanu?
> > Voodoo is use in our society for evil. If you want to change that, go
> and
> > show them the good things about Voodoo. I am sure, in Soutuma, they will
> > not only hang you, but you will lose your balls along the way.
> >
> > I have been to your village many times. I even remember around 1989 when
> > some people gather together to exploit some gullible villagers and those
> of
> > the Surrounding. They said, A Hyena has made a well. This Well suddenly
> is
> > said to heal people.
> > And suddenly, Vans started invading the village from Senegal and
> > Cassamance. People pay some money to get the water and bath.
> > But after a couple weeks, the scam was exposed. This happen near your
> > village. I wonder if you will do a bit of research on that.
> >
> > If you think promoting traditional religion is a meaningful thing to do,
> > let us see you recant your faith, then learn Voodoo, may be after a
> couple
> > of years, you will become an expert just the propagator of the 'Silo'.
> Islam
> > on the other hand is free from actions of people that goes against it
> > teaching.
> > Your deceptive use of Arabic words like Harem to pretend that, Islam
> > allows for such behaviour is flabbergasting. I am sure, we can define
> Sarahulehs
> > by the actions of few Sarahuleh as a general norm.
> > Stop the childishness, your Mother is a woman. If You have no respect
> for
> > other women, at least do respect her. Don't let the European cold breeze
> > make you crazy.
> > Suntou
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> > I had to tighten my screws to sponsor my second prince (the first being
> > the waldo O'brien-Coker). This is the handle he afforded me to be
> subscribed:
> >
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> > Can you believe the remarkable conceit and self-confidence?????? I
> thought
> > I was bad. I like Sankanu not only for his unorthodox and mind-jolting
> > rebellion against global idiocies, but for his kind heart and generous
> > temperament. For those who are insensed by Sankanu, I plead you take a
> second read
> > of his writings. I think you are being unreasonable in your disdain of
> > him. Sankanu tells the truth in the most forceful way he knows how and
> being a
> > Prince, he is inuring grave discounts to his pedigree. So enough with
> your
> > gratuitous disdains of my Prince and listen to the man. You might learn
> > something gaddamit.
> >
> > Haruna.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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