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2009/5/31 Edie Sidibeh <[log in to unmask]>:
> My dear brother,
>
> No you are not disappointing me in anyway and moreover, this is directed to
> anyone who can awake me up from my sleepless slumber laugh.
>
> To be clear on your question; I meant to say, If our destiny is directed by
> God then we will go to heaven but if it is directed by ourselves then hell
> is our dwelling place.
>
> Is really confusing I know. I was just trying to make sense on my own
> question that red; Is our destiny decided by God or ourselves? "reciprocate"
> in that sense means (in reverse) to the former. Thanks and may we all be
> forgiven by His name. Edie
>
> --- On Sun, 31/5/09, Edi Jah <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> From: Edi Jah <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Fwd - Daily Hadith: Purpose of Knowledge
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Sunday, 31 May, 2009, 6:29 PM
>
> Edie Sidibeh,
>
> Thanks for your mail. Sorry to disappoint you, but this is not my
> write-up. I receive snippets of Hadith on my phone through a Daily
> Hadith subscription. The subject line did say ''Fwd: Daily Hadith''
> and the paragraph you are querying is clearly credited to Ibn Majah.
>
> By reciting the following [shahadah]: ''ašhadu ʾanla ilÄ�ha illal-LÄ�h,
> wa ʾašhadu ʾanna muḥammadan rasūlul-LÄ�h''. I accept to follow Allah's
> directives through the Quran and examples provided through the life of
> Prophet Muhammed(SAW) in Hadiths. I take those guided by Allah(SWT)
> simply to mean those that follow teachings of the Quran and Hadiths.
> We have the freedom to follow Allah'(SWT) guidance or do as we please
> without inhibition. Allah(SWT) knows best.
>
> '' if your destiny is directed by god you go  to heaven but if
> reciprocate, hell is your dwelling place?''
> I am not sure I fully understand your question above, especially the
> context of reciprocate in the question, could you clarify please.
>
> The first word Angel Gibril uttered to Prophet Muhammed(SAW) was
> Iqra[learn]. We are encouraged to learn and share knowledge, however,
> showing-off just to demonstrate how one has superior knowledge is
> disgusting.
>
> Edi Jah
>
>
> I
>
>
> On 31/05/2009, Edie Sidibeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> My dear and beloved name sake Edi, I am not responding to this because of
>> arguing with you, but seeking knowledge from you (The scholar) in respect
>> to
>> your first paragraph, as the saying goes like; (one who does not asked,
>> will
>> never know) so bear with me. However, some can say I am crazy, stupid, or
>> a
>> disbeliever does not make any difference to me.
>>
>> My ignorance here is the fact that; Is our destiny directed by our own
>> selves or by God? or is it that; if your destiny is directed by god you go
>> to heaven but if reciprocate, hell is your dwelling place? as Quran says
>> whoever God guided will never be led astray. If will then be unfair to
>> those
>> who he does not guide and therefore, going to hell fire.
>>
>> Then again where will the world be, by now; without people arguing on
>> better
>> ways to doing things? I think religion should not belittle anyone but
>> inclusive to whether crazy, stupid, unhealthy, unhappy, poor or rich,
>> notwithstanding; religion should not judge people as foolish if they are
>> trying to get knowledge of God because God Himself says; (before you
>> worship
>> me get to know me first). So how can we worship him if you think you don't
>> know him? and if you are trying to know him on your own way, you are crazy
>> or disbeliever and therefore, hell fire will be your dwelling place.
>>
>> Should I gain knowledge, and did not showoff with it to be shared with
>> others who cannot or have not got the opportunities am I still going to
>> heaven? upon knowing that, it was God who gave me the power to secure that
>> knowledge and therefore, should not be wasted but shared with others so
>> that
>> it can be used and be benefited from even after I am gone? I think teacher
>> are sowing off their knowledge that is why they are teaching so is the
>> religion leaders to enable them to lead the list goes on and on. I say
>> this
>> again, I am not here to belittle you but just to seek help on my
>> "craziness
>> or lunatic criteria". And don't worry if this will take me to hell.
>> Besides,
>> I believe in God and the prophets, but I don't believe the right teachings
>> are delivered but distorted to fit the then leaders lifestyles may God
>> forgive me if I am wrong in trying to know Him better. Edie
>>
>> --- On Sun, 31/5/09, Edi Jah <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> From: Edi Jah <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Fwd - Daily Hadith: Purpose of Knowledge
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Date: Sunday, 31 May, 2009, 7:06 AM
>>
>> Purpose of Knowledge
>>
>> Rasul Allah (sal Allahu alaihi wasallam) said: “Do not attain learning
>> in order to express pride before the ulema (scholars), nor by its help
>> quarrel with foolish people, nor through it try to overwhelm meetings,
>> but he who does so, his destination is fire.� [Ibn Majah]
>>
>> The purpose of seeking knowledge of the Deen is to be in a better
>> position to seek Allah's pleasure. All Muslims are required to obtain
>> that knowledge by which they may enter Jannah and escape the Fire.
>> Ignorance is not bliss, for we will be held accountable for that which
>> we could have found out. If we acquire this knowledge to seek worldly
>> gain then it will be rejected by Allah (subhana wa ta’ala). Knowledge
>> that is gained so that we may show it off and appear knowledgeable is
>> a source of destruction.
>>
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