Phil,

I agree about the programs not working.  That's because addicts need God, 
not a program.    Unshackled shows that better than just about any other 
radio drama out there.  I don't listen to it much anymore but loved it as a 
child.   I even got to see a taping of it once when CBH went to Pacific 
Garden Mission on a tour.



JulieMelton
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www.heart-and-music.com
Keep smiling!





>From: Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: The latest on Chris
>Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:19:33 -0600
>
>Kathy,
>
>I know everything seems to happen at once, or mighty close together, and 
>now
>isn't the time for money to be cut back either.  We never paid for any of
>Gretchen 4,200 dollars of drug classes in this diversionary program she is
>in and she still has probably more than half left to pay.  They can drop 
>all
>but 3,000 dollars, if they want to, but the 3 grand is a federal payment
>because of the intent to distribute felony part of the arrest.  She finally
>has turned her paycheck over to her younger brother, that's who she is
>employed with anyhow, and he dibbies out her money as she needs it to pay
>for UAs, classes, rent, and whatever.  That has helped her some, too.  So
>she seems to be finally making an effort and she is spending more time with
>her children.  Unfortunately, for dopers, selling to make money, and 
>selling
>to make money to buy your own dope, is very commonly practiced.  One of
>Gretchen's boyfriend, he was coming to church here, kept missing his drug
>classes so the judge sent him to prison, real prison and not county lock 
>up,
>for six months.  He got stoned two days after getting out.  We have heard,
>but haven't confirmed, he is back in prison already but this time for a
>couple of years.  You know?  I have never met a doper I didn't like.  They
>are all nice people, some born again Christians, but the dumb government
>programs just don't work for a damn and I do mean damn this time.  If I 
>were
>a warden, and running a prison, I'd make everybody listen to unshackled
>programs around the clock.
>
>Phil.