Kathy,

I stand corrected. Beer I'm not a fan of at all. Impurities? Tequila is the
one with the worm in it isn't it? lol.

Brad




At 10:10 AM 12/3/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>Brad,
>We are in agreement except at one point.  Beer is glugged.  Wine is
>sipped, not slurped, but sipped, and, don't forget to check for
>impurities!  GRINN!
>Kathy
>
>
>At 10:47 PM 12/2/2005, you wrote:
> >My wife goes to a women's Bible study once a week. One week one of the
> >ladies brought a bottle of wine  to share after the study.   Recently we
> >were talking and got on this particular  topic and occurrence and began
> >to  talk. We both initially agreed, there is nothing wrong with having a
> >glass of wine or margarita or whatever now and again, as long as the wine
> >or margarita doesn't have you. We saw nothing wrong with such between
> >spouses over dinner, as she and I do occasionally. Then we thought of it in
> >a Bible study setting or even before or after. My initial reaction was "no"
> >that didn't seem proper. But before  I got the word  "no" completely out of
> >my mouth I was convicted.  If it is not OK in or around a Bible study, then
> >why is it OK over dinner? Why is there two sets of rules to fit our life? I
> >then figured indeed there would be nothing wrong with wine or whatever in a
> >Bible study setting either as  there are no rules against wine, in fact
> >didn't Jesus show his first miracle by making water into wine? And did not
> >wine show up all over the Bible? It does say however not to be drunk and
> >lose your  sharpness of thought. So I concluded that in either case wine
> >would be OK. However, as pointed out here, perhaps others may have a
> >problem with alcohol and it is not appropriate to put this before them as
> >if to cause a brother, or in this case, a sister to stumble. Also mentioned
> >here and I'm sure it was the first thing that entered in most of your minds
> >was... "what would other Christians think"? Why is that anyway? Even we, as
> >Christians, just like Phil's folks he knows who have slipped a bit and do
> >not want to come to services, we, as Christians ourselves become subject to
> >the "high and mighty" attitudes, that we shy from living out or even
> >stating our own beliefs in fear we will be outcasts or seen as less a child
> >of God because of it, or become  a "world premiere" of the rumor mill. How
> >would you feel if you were eating supper and you and your spouse shared a
> >glass of wine, and the door bell rings, and it is your pastor.  In he walks
> >in, bottle on the table and all. Minus Greg and Kathy, and Phil as well  as
> >they are pastors, but even they would likely  be faced with a similar
> >situation if their superior were to walk in, or perhaps even worse, an
> >elder or congregational member. Perhaps we might not feel wrong, but it is
> >the reaction of others, or the supposed reaction of others that would or
> >could make it awkward. I remember a friend of ours talking to us about our
> >former pastor's wife who had, God forbid, wine bottles in her house and she
> >was now drinking!! That seems to me jumping the gun, making assumptions
> >that were not founded, and spreading gossip. I'm not  suggesting we all
> >ought now head out to the bar for a drink, that is not the same issue for
> >likely a few reasons, but this situation pointed out that we ought  not
> >live two sets of rules, but let one set of rules rule any situation. I'm
> >sure there are those that disagree and feel we ought not have anything to
> >do with alcohol, which I think is birthed out of the blatant and willing
> >abuse of it by so many, or folks they know who have had problems with
> >it,  that drives that thought. But  casual and responsible consumption of
> >it to me doesn't seem wrong.
> >
> >*holding up glass*, Cheers. clinkety clink
> >glug, glug, glug, glug glug glug  glugluglugluglugluglugluglug
> >
> >hush'sh'sh'sh'sh'sh'sh'sh'sh'sh'sh'sh'sh'sh'sh'sh'sh'sh'sh'sh'sh'sh'sh'sh
> 'sh'sh'sh'sh
> >
> >Don't tell the pastor. loll.
> >
> >Brad

Brad

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