I am absolutely sure, Mr. Phil, that you were filled with the spirit 
before age 30 because if I remember correctly, you became a Christian 
much longer

Hugs,

Doris

and every Christian is indwelt by the spirit.


At 01:50 PM 8/14/2013 -0600, you wrote:
>Doris,
>
>I was filled with the Holy Spirit at age 30 by myself in the 
>basement of my home.  I never spoke in tongues until three years later.
>
>Phil.
>
>
>
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>----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris and Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:35 PM
>Subject: Re: Pray Without Ceasing - Tongues?
>
>
>>That's what the Lord tells me in my middle when I talk to him. The 
>>little tradition I come from, rejects speaking in tongues while 
>>several of my friends insnist on it being a sign of a true 
>>born-again Christian.  I think one is as wrong as the other.
>>
>>I've  never personally felt the need or desire to speak in tongues 
>>but am glad for th ose who find expression and access to God when 
>>they use the gift.
>>Actually, as a much younger Christian I sometimes longed for the 
>>gift of tongues when I feltI had no words or may prayer just went 
>>to the ceiling or lower still , i wished I could speak in tongues. 
>>Today I think that when it gets to middle stuff, I think a lot of 
>>that is beyond words anyway. A lot of deep stuff is. Often with 
>>Chrhis and me, we know what the other thinks anyway and there is no 
>>need for words. Sometimes when I share deep with Papito, I ask him 
>>if he can see my middle and even more often he does and sometimes 
>>before I do like a daddy does. And if people like Chris or Papito 
>>don't - and Ned doesn't believe in angel speak but just in 
>>"tongues" as being able to speak other languages like Spanish or 
>>German - then Mr. God sure doesn't because he is in the middle and 
>>all around and he made us in the first place knitting needles and 
>>all. The gifts we get are to help us to help God do his God stuff 
>>whether Angel Speak so we have a channel for beyond words stuff if 
>>that helps us because God's loves to hear from us or whether it is 
>>the gift of using languages to preach to other people - or, I bet, 
>>language in any sense not just for preaching but for writing and 
>>writing songs and music and painting with words in whatever form.
>>
>>Isn't there some song about one's life being a song or prayer to 
>>God in the first place? I have half-remembered lyrics in the back 
>>of my mind ever since us starting this subject - not tongues but 
>>the ceaseless prayer - but I don't remember lyrics really nor a tune. Oh well.
>>
>>Thanks for your confirmation on the subject, Mr. Phil.
>>
>>In his loving grip!
>>
>>Doris
>>
>>
>>At 12:31 PM 8/14/2013 -0600, you wrote:
>>>Doris,
>>>
>>>You are correct.  Tongues is a spiritual gift, which means, no one 
>>>needs, or has to, speak in tongues.  It belongs in the prayer 
>>>category due to its twofold nature.  However, anyone who says you 
>>>have to speak in tongues for any reason isn't interpreting 
>>>Scripture correctly.  Pray without ceasing isn't tongues but it 
>>>could be used at times in the process; it's just not a requirement.
>>>
>>>Phil.